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Seriously, America.

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 5:54 pm
by Reservoir_Dog
Can't you go a week without a mass shooting?

Re: Seriously, America.

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:03 pm
by callmeslick
seldom. Because, the second amendment apparently gives militia status to every nut with a gun.

Re: Seriously, America.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:19 am
by FarSide
appalling. sickening. and nothing will happen. nothing will be done. i'm a gun owner and a member of the nra but it's clear to me that something has to be done about these assault rifles. they need to be completely banned. they're not for hunting or home defense. they're for killing. 13 school shootings in 2018 already and it's only the middle of february. it's appalling that this keeps happening and we do nothing about it. we need real politicians who have a backbone to stand up to the gun lobby.

Re: Seriously, America.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:03 am
by callmeslick
you can start by turning in your NRA membership. They've done nothing but shill, partly with your membership money, for unsafe laws around transfer, regulation, oversight, and have been cheerleaders for more guns every time a tragedy happens. Maybe if enough sane, good hearted gun owners tell that terrorist lobby to go fuck themselves, we might, as a nation be able to proceed. Marco Rubio, quickly jumping up with 'let's not jump to conclusions' should disgust every constituent in his home state. The NRA has given that pandering weasel over 3 Million dollars, and see what they've bought?

Re: Seriously, America.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 3:11 pm
by Reservoir_Dog
And right on cue all the Republican talking heads have begun going on about how it's not about the guns ... it's about mental health issues. It's not the guns. We don't have to restrict guns, we need to address mental health issues.

Except of course, there's this ......
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... al-illness

Re: Seriously, America.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:13 pm
by Reservoir_Dog
This keeps happening again and again and again ...

2018 17 killed in Florida high school shooting
2018 2 killed in Kentucky high school shooting
2017 2 killed in New Mexico high school shooting
2017 1 killed in Washington high school shooting
2017 2 killed in CA elementary school shooting
2016 1 killed in SC elementary school shooting
2014 4 killed in Washington high school shooting
2014 1 killed in Oregon high school shooting
2013 1 killed in Colorado high school shooting

2013 1 killed in Nevada middle school shooting
2012 26 killed in Sandy Hook Elementary shooting
2012 3 killed in Ohio high school shooting
2011 1 killed in Nebraska high school shooting
2010 1 killed in Alabama high school shooting
2008 1 killed in Tennessee high school shooting
2006 5 killed in Amish schoolhouse shooting
2006 1 killed in Colorado high school shooting

2005 1 killed in Tennessee high school shooting
2005 7 killed in Minnesota high school shooting
2003 1 killed in Minnesota high school shooting
2003 1 killed in Pennsylvania high school shooting
2001 2 killed in California high school shooting
2000 1 killed in Florida high school shooting
1999 13 killed in Columbine High School shooting

Re: Seriously, America.

Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 5:16 pm
by callmeslick
we've had 18 gun related incidents in schools this year alone. And, on a related note, this one is yet another white nationalist with a gun. Whee! Let's build a wall and vet the Muslims to keep America safe, right?

Re: Seriously, America.

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:43 am
by FarSide
callmeslick wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:03 am
you can start by turning in your NRA membership. They've done nothing but shill, partly with your membership money, for unsafe laws around transfer, regulation, oversight, and have been cheerleaders for more guns every time a tragedy happens. Maybe if enough sane, good hearted gun owners tell that terrorist lobby to go fuck themselves, we might, as a nation be able to proceed. Marco Rubio, quickly jumping up with 'let's not jump to conclusions' should disgust every constituent in his home state. The NRA has given that pandering weasel over 3 Million dollars, and see what they've bought?
you don't throw the baby out with the bath water. the nra likes to buy politicians, that's true. but the politicians are allowed to say no thanks. there's nothing forcing them to take nra money. liberal democrats manage to get elected without nra money so why can't a republican? if more politicians started saying no thanks to nra money it would be a giant first step to fixing the gun problem in america. if politicians were free to vote their conscience there would be a ban on assault rifles in a week.
and the nra isn't an evil empire. they do some good things with their money as well. training, education, and the like. i don't like that the nra buys politicians any more than you do. but for now the card stays in my wallet. for now. big oil buys politicians all the time, are you going to stop buying gas?

Re: Seriously, America.

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:32 am
by callmeslick
the NRA might well be a Russian money funnel, when this election business is all sorted out. As for throwing the baby out with the bath water, I would argue that the bad at this point far outweighs the good, the bought politicians are pure evil, and it takes a purchaser to make that evil happen. Certainly, the teaching and other positive outreach can be handled by sportsmans clubs, without demanding gutted background checks, underfunded enforcement of firearms, blockage of any sensible legislation and a near-constant demand for universal concealed carry, perhaps the dumbest, most dangerous notion I could think of for a civilized society(fuck, even places like Tombstone and Dodge City demanded guns be left at the city office upon arrival).

Re: Seriously, America.

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:27 pm
by FarSide