Obamacare Unconstitutional says Federal Judge

[ruggbutt]

Like the rest of us didn't already know that we can't be forced into business with a third party entity.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-12-1 ... judge.html

[callmeslick]

too bad he didn't sway the other two Federal Judges who had already ruled the same part of the law Constitutional. On to the Supreme Court, at any rate........I told ya all along that the easy route is to simply make Medicare cradle to grave, and pay for it with the money now spent by employers and citizens on premiums.

[Barfly]

The argument is for or against national healthcare not how to best implement national healthcare.

[callmeslick]

The argument is for or against national healthcare not how to best implement national healthcare.

Not when 68% of the public agrees with the idea of national healthcare. And, those are consistently the numbers you get when you take out the 'socialized medicine' and other wordings that sway the polling.
Facts are, the system we have now is a huge drain on our economy, and throws a massive dose of economic uncertainty into the lives of both employers and workers. Something has to give. I'll be as ready as the next person to ditch the sorry-ass compromise the Congress dealt up. But, the status quo has to go.

[ruggbutt]

This country can't afford Obamacare.

[Barfly]

I agree on your points Slick, that 68% do not agree we should have socialized medicine, and the status quo is not acceptable.

[Pudfark]

I have to call bullshit on the 68% number....and say that Slick...just snatched that number out of the air....or that particular number is outdated as hell....How in the world can you say that 68% of folks want Fed Health Care.....when they don't know what it costs, covers or if they have any control over it? Pure bullshit. No responsible person would take a deal like that. Which is why the Dem's did the back door in the middle of the night thingy with it.......In fact, it was such a good deal, Pelosi said to vote it in with out looking at it.....and it don't affect her.

I will be interesting to see if the Supreme Court has been as compromised as the Democratic Party...that is, another bunch of thieving mother fuckers..to be got rid of.....?

[Barfly]

Hey Pud, the 68 is probably approval of existing medicare and medicaid, not approval of universal. Although there are a gazillion websites that pop up on Google search with commentary that bends the meaning. None of them are recognizable as traditionally reputable sources. Basically lying to push an agenda. ("nuance" to some folks, lol)

[fatman]

I have to ask this why dont you guys already have universal healthcare? The rest of the civilised world does and really im sure you guys arent taxed much less than us so the funds should be there.

[Barfly]

I will be interesting to see if the Supreme Court has been as compromised as the Democratic Party...that is, another bunch of thieving mother fuckers..to be got rid of.....?

Yeah if that happens this whole thing is definitely over. The "useful idiots" who supported this crap, in the end will be sitting at the kiddie table with us, they just don't know it yet.