interesting

[callmeslick]

....given this topic will be discussed in DC this week:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41104102/ns ... _politics/

[Wullie]

Bullshit.

More damage control to be "discussed" with UTMOST civility.

[callmeslick]

how is the GOP bill to rescind healthcare 'damage control', Wullie?

[Wullie]

AP poll....

The poll finds that 40 percent of those surveyed said they support the law, while 41 percent oppose it. Just after the November congressional elections, opposition stood at 47 percent and support was 38 percent.

Survey a sampling of voters and non-voters and then say it's gospel.

Then top the article of with a stunning quote like this;

Overall, it didn't go as far as I would have liked," said Joshua Smith, 46, a sales consultant to manufacturers who lives in Herndon, Virginia. "In a perfect world, I'd like to see them change it to make it more encompassing, but judging by how hard it was to get it passed, they had to take whatever they could get."

There's your damage control attempt.

You need another drink or 5.

[fatman]

I would rather talk aboot rising fuel prices we are now just aboot paying the same as the record high of 2 years ago reason being the US is recovering at a faster rate so what is it the end of the world or are you guys over the hump because i doubt that it oil companies being greedy

[callmeslick]

Wullie, the part of the whole thing that took me by surpise wasn't the overall numbers, but the level of support for MORE inclusive national healthcare. That number was much higher than I would have guessed.

[Dawg]

AP-GfK Poll..who?

Reuters FTW
Your polls suggests they were asked whats more important, health care reform or jobs/economy?

The poll finds that 40 percent of those surveyed said they support the law, while 41 percent oppose it. Just after the November congressional elections, opposition stood at 47 percent and support was 38 percent.

...so, opposition dropped as did support it would seem. No surprise as bills from the holidays start rolling in and concerns about the economy increases while the unemployment numbers jump up as well-

all the way at the bottom of your link (I'm doing this so wont be so quick to play your "you didn't read it" card)

Opposition to the law remains strongest among Republicans. Seventy-one percent of them say they're against it, as compared with 35 percent of independents and 19 percent of Democrats. Republicans won back control of the House partly on a promise to repeal what they dismissively term as "Obamacare."

..there ya go
I'll keep chipping at that nonsensical poll

One of the major criticisms of the law found wide acceptance in the poll, suggesting a vulnerability that Republican politicians can continue to press.

Nearly six in 10 oppose the law's requirement that people carry health insurance except in cases of financial hardship. Starting in 2014, people will have to show that they're covered either through an employer, a government program, or under their own plan.

No mention of party, so thats 60% of Americans, yes?

and the money shot

The AP-GfK Poll was conducted Jan. 5-10 by GfK Roper Public Affairs and Corporate Communications. It involved landline and cell phone interviews with 1,001 adults nationwide, and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4.2 percentage points.

Overlooking the overwhelming left slant of MSNBC is easier when they say what you want to hear, no?

oh...and this- from their website, not evul right wing bloggers

GfK US Healthcare Companies

Represented by three distinct, premiere brands in healthcare marketing research – GfK Market Measures, GfK Strategic Marketing and GfK V2 – the GfK U.S. Healthcare Companies offer you the highest standards of excellence in research experience, innovation and thought leadership, together with the global support of the GfK Group, a company with a rich tradition and history of more than 70 years focused solely on the business of marketing research. For more information, visit www.gfkushc.com.

awesome

[callmeslick]

actually, Dawg, I don't disagree with much that you state. FWIW, the MSNBC link was just the easiest for me as an MSN customer to call up and post. What you write about the mellowing due to a change in focus onto unemployment I think is spot on. As I said to Wullie, I was sort of surprised that as many as the poll showed were still in favor of much more inclusive healthcare coverage.
I think the GOP is simply wasting valuable time to mollify a chunk of their base on this whole matter. The bill isn't going to get overturned. The fact that they blatantly ignore the addition to the deficit caused by repeal, and actually go into denial over bipartisan figures might hurt them. Only slightly, though. It's all just politics, and that is what got us to this point; politics, at present, seems to dictate giving everyone everything they want, without any plan to pay for it. We're getting to the endpoint of where that is sustainable, the people know it, and how the whole mess plays out is anyone's guess. It is high time we had a national debate/discussion over what the public expects of government, and how it wishes to finance it.
Repeated studies seem to show that the public WANTS Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, Unemployment Compensation and a whole host of other benefits. Further, many see us staying in Afghanistan at the cost of billions, and financing a massive larger defense than necessary to be a core necessity. They simply don't, as individuals, like paying for these things. It's sort of like the whole matter of rising healthcare costs. We have brought technology forward light years over the course of your lifetime, and mine. Does anyone think that progress came without research, development or other costs?