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[callmeslick]

Wullie....THIS is sucking at the government tit:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33354321/ns ... york_times

....and the fecked-up part is, that had the Bush and Obama administrations NOT done this, every regular citizen would have suffered, massively. It takes a long time to set up a system so skewed to benefit so few.
Not Obamas fault, nor Bush I, Clinton, Bush II. Just another in a long series of setups. The same guys win, the same folks lose. Every time.
And you know the really sad part? No one is going to use the system of government that our Founders gave us to change this shit, because politicians and others with a vested interest keep throwing up smokescreens to confuse the voters and render representative government helpless.

[Wullie]

I agree.

All I know is this, the government can't give anything to anybody unless they take it from someone else.

[Soapy]

Going back to the internet poll, every time I click on the link, I have no option to vote, yet, when I hit refresh, the votes go up by a few hundred randomly.

I smell Florida

[callmeslick]

I agree.

All I know is this, the government can't give anything to anybody unless they take it from someone else.

right you are. Isn't it maybe time to rethink the folks who have been taking the most, for the longest time?

[callmeslick]

Going back to the internet poll, every time I click on the link, I have no option to vote, yet, when I hit refresh, the votes go up by a few hundred randomly.

I smell Florida

it could be worse. You could smell either New Jersey or Rhode Island, which is similar.

[Wullie]

What's it smell like in Glasgow?

right you are. Isn't it maybe time to rethink the folks who have been taking the most, for the longest time?

If this guy is right, it won't matter. They'll have it all.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atla ... ember.HTML

One thing about it, I can live off the land and do my damnedest to stay under the radar.

[DKoor]

I agree.

All I know is this, the government can't give anything to anybody unless they take it from someone else.

right you are. Isn't it maybe time to rethink the folks who have been taking the most, for the longest time?

Watch it.
You're *this* close to being called a commie.

They did the radical version of that and look how that ended up.

To clarify what I'm talking about... my grand-grand father had a lot of land, some 50 acres (50,000m2)... so when communist came to power in my former country they said he's a kulak and in the name of the people they nationalised all but 6 acres of his land. The poor people (peasants who got their small pieces) in the country really felt things getting better but that was at someone's expense... now to say that my grand-grand father was people's enemy along with all those who had "too much" is I guess - pushing it a bit .

Would be good if that system could work... the whole communist system is based around that - take from those who had too much and give those who are poor.

Didn't worked too well.

Must sound like Quasar now... didn't worked because people are shit, so any system doesn't really work as intended and there are always honest people who get screwed up in every "system". Be it communism, capitalism, socialism etc.... everything is essentially flawed somewhere, only because people made it so.

[Soapy]

What's it smell like in Glasgow?

Fumes, kebabs and stale lager, with a hint of an unpcoming general election

[Dawg]

....are you capable of reading the part where I said that Presidents and Congresses don't do much to
affect economic trends?

Wow.
I'm speechless.
mind if I share that?

[callmeslick]

... my grand-grand father had a lot of land, some 50 acres (50,000m2)... so when communist came to power in my former country they said he's a kulak and in the name of the people they nationalised all but 6 acres of his land.

I argue for the points I do, here in the US, precisely to avoid that sort of radical 'solution' DKoor. I am sitting on a lot more than 50 acres, its been in my family for around 300 years, and I would prefer that not to change. If we let the gap continue to grow between the haves and have-nots, and allow a greater and greater portion of the citizenry to fall into poverty, those sorts of revolutionary solutions look better and better to the electorate.