"Thumpers" and "Bumpers"

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CUDA wrote:a little history lesson for you not only of the persecution of the Christians, but evidence of Christ being put to death.
The following account was written by the Roman historian Tacitus in his book Annals published a few years after the event. Tacitus was a young boy living in Rome during the time of the persecutions.

"Therefore, to stop the rumor [that he had set Rome on fire], he [Emperor Nero] falsely charged with guilt, and punished with the most fearful tortures, the persons commonly called Christians, who were [generally] hated for their enormities. Christus, the founder of that name, was put to death as a criminal by Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea, in the reign of Tiberius, but the pernicious superstition - repressed for a time, broke out yet again, not only through Judea, - where the mischief originated, but through the city of Rome also, whither all things horrible and disgraceful flow from all quarters, as to a common receptacle, and where they are encouraged. Accordingly first those were arrested who confessed they were Christians; next on their information, a vast multitude were convicted, not so much on the charge of burning the city, as of "hating the human race."

In their very deaths they were made the subjects of sport: for they were covered with the hides of wild beasts, and worried to death by dogs, or nailed to crosses, or set fire to, and when the day waned, burned to serve for the evening lights. Nero offered his own garden players for the spectacle, and exhibited a Circensian game, indiscriminately mingling with the common people in the dress of a charioteer, or else standing in his chariot. For this cause a feeling of compassion arose towards the sufferers, though guilty and deserving of exemplary capital punishment, because they seemed not to be cut off for the public good, but were victims of the ferocity of one man."
WOW those accounts sound so inviting SIGN ME UP :roll:
Some guy commited suicide attaching a tube to a gas mask and plugging the other end in his ass, all the while being dressed in women underwear. Should we sign you up to?

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CUDA wrote:
nicolas10 wrote: But as I said if you want to prove disprove anything about god, just look at history.

Nic
Evidence??? I'd like to see how history disproves the existence of God
How about showing how the myth spread for starters?
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nicolas10 wrote:
CUDA wrote:
nicolas10 wrote: But as I said if you want to prove disprove anything about god, just look at history.

Nic
Evidence??? I'd like to see how history disproves the existence of God
How about showing how the myth spread for starters?
AH so your like HH you claim to have Evidence but refuse to produce it. it's actually quite a simple process, much like I just proved your assumption with why Christianity was so popular were wrong. find your historical facts and show where there is no God or is this just like HH when he said
Science that is capable of clearly demonstrating to us the fact
that there is no God...HH
another known lie?
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CUDA wrote:AH so your like HH you claim to have Evidence but refuse to produce it. it's actually quite a simple process, much like I just proved your assumption with why Christianity was so popular were wrong. find your historical facts and show where there is no God or is this just like HH when he said
Science that is capable of clearly demonstrating to us the fact
that there is no God...HH
another known lie?
WTF are you on about?

I never claimed to have evidence about the existence or not of god. You're putting words in my mouth. You didn't prove anything wrong, you just claimed that christianity shouldn't be popular because nero was oh so mean to christians. By that logic I don't know how there could still be jews, considering how Hitler was oh so mean to them? What kind of a stupid argument is that?

Seriously I find this sort of argument is pointless and annoying, and I really don't care if you believe in god or in the giant noodle. Besides, since your are mostly arguing with yourself anyway, you can keep at it alone.

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But as I said if you want to prove disprove anything about god, just look at history.

Nic
I just want to know where your Historical evidence is to "disprove anything about God" you claimed to be able to do so. :roll:

you and HH have done the same thing. you make unsubstantiated claims and then back it up with your Opinion. not facts.
you claimed that it was all joy and a happy life that advanced Christianity in ancient Rome. I proved to you historically it was just the opposite.
When I ask to to support your opinion you get all pissy and run off like HH did, are you going to put me on your Ignore list also?
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I never claimed that I had many links to prove or disprove anything. If you want to look into history be my guest, if you don't be my guest. Has it ever occurred to you that you can't find EVERYTHING on google? Have you read history books? Followed some history courses? Courses of history of religions? Last but not list why do you think I would do all the effort and dig up links to prove YOU something?

I said the article was BS
I said that science had no business proving/disproving the existence of god
I said if you wanted to prove disprove something go look into history. At least the very little parts of history we happen to know

Don't agree with that? Fine, but then stick to what I said, and stop moving the goalposts again and again.

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nicolas10 wrote:I never claimed that I had many links to prove or disprove anything. If you want to look into history be my guest, if you don't be my guest. Has it ever occurred to you that you can't find EVERYTHING on google? Have you read history books? Followed some history courses? Courses of history of religion.
actually I am extremely well versed in History and have been studying it for decades. close to 40 years now, my studies Include World, military, U.S., political(mostly American) and Biblical history. if I have a true passion in my life outside My Faith and my Family. it is my study and knowledge of history. there are a couple of these subjects I could probably teach on. and 1 I have.
Last but not list why dons? you think I would do all the effort and dig up links to prove YOU something?
UHM to maybe back your your claims :roll: because otherwise it's just an Opinion.
o·pin·ion/əˈpinyən/Noun
1. A view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
I said the article was BS
I said that science had no business proving/disproving the existence of god
I said if you wanted to prove disprove something go look into history. At least the very little parts of history we happen to know
while this may have been your intention that is not what you initially said. you initially claimed it to be BS or a lie and left it at that
Don't agree with that? Fine, but then stick to what I said, and stop moving the goalposts again and again.
I have done nothing but stick to what you said, you lead this conversation I just challenged you every time you said it.
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hahaha

right.
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I am still in this but spending the day with my grand kids at a fun day at a Christian church designed to lure in many non-Christians so that we can take advantage of them with our lies and bleed there bank accounts dry. :roll:

Buzz don't leave, take a step back and a deep breath then jump in and fight the good fight!
Now we have demonstrable evidence that if you try to lead from behind, eventually the guys up front will stop looking back for instructions.
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nicolas10 wrote:hahaha

right.
Nice response :roll: it's just like all your others, lacking substance ;)
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