Another Onederful Idea...

[Pudfark]

Ya gotta give'm credit fer stamina...

White House Outlines $467 Billion In Savings To Pay For Jobs Act

"The kinds of provisions we are talking about changing we don't believe will cause a reduction of any kind of economic activity or job loss"

"In terms of timing, these provisions don't take effect until January 2013"

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/1 ... 58560.html

Old Pudfark sez: " How are Obama's Economic Policies and M&M's alike ?? Well? They melt in his mouth, not in your hand.... "

[fatman]

So is he Robin Hood now or what

[Pudfark]

Good and funny analogy, fatman....

Here's one back at ya.....
More like the Sheriff of "Nottinghave".....

Things are so screwed up....Even, Slick refrains from defending/explaining them....
The remark above, is no slap to Slick....it's just the facts....

Old Pudfark sez: " The fella promising folks a job? Is gonna have a helluva time keeping his own... "

[Pudfark]

Here is a dab more info....Check out the graph..and the verbiage....

Poverty rate rises in America

http://money.cnn.com/2011/09/13/news/ec ... k3%7C95211

[callmeslick]

expect that poverty score to keep rising unless you have a RADICAL overhaul of the economy and the education of the workforce........as, I have been saying for a decade here.

[Pudfark]

expect that poverty score to keep rising unless you have a RADICAL overhaul of the economy and the education of the workforce........as, I have been saying for a decade here.

Your statement above is more than probably true.....
The wife was looking at the graph just before I posted the link...
I told her what it was....and pointed out..that it ended in 2010, not this year.
I said to her...IMHO, it would probably be a point or two higher for this year and
for sure, the next.

I'll say this and let you throw some rocks at me...
It is beyond stupid to blindly endorse Obama's Jobs Bill....
We must get back to an export economy.
We must reacquire the markets we lost and we must find new ones.
We must innovate and export to create jobs.
We must entice by any means necessary more Private Enterprise, which by the way,
should be the sole "funder" of jobs.

More to say later....

[callmeslick]

Your statement above is more than probably true.....
The wife was looking at the graph just before I posted the link...
I told her what it was....and pointed out..that it ended in 2010, not this year.
I said to her...IMHO, it would probably be a point or two higher for this year and
for sure, the next.

despite marrying you, your wife is an astute woman. The numbers came out today, and we
are up to 15.9%, a 0.8% rise. What is scary is that this rate seems to be linear from 2000 to present.

I'll say this and let you throw some rocks at me...
It is beyond stupid to blindly endorse Obama's Jobs Bill....
We must get back to an export economy.
We must reacquire the markets we lost and we must find new ones.
We must innovate and export to create jobs.
We must entice by any means necessary more Private Enterprise, which by the way,
should be the sole "funder" of jobs.

you are talking apples and oranges. Everything you address above, and I may have minor quibbles with some of it, requires long term strategy, sacrifice and planning. It will also involve massive government assistance, or will fail miserably. Remember, Pud, you are trying to compete with China, primarily, and they pump Billions in govt money into their businesses. I'll go back to an old topic by way of example. Remember ole Slick's proposed solar farm? Well, I have the project on hold for two reasons. First, Solar companies in this company are dropping like flies and the few remaining are hurting, so I can't count on continuity of service or support.
You might have seen the GOP congress-weasals making a stink over one solar company who got stimulus money, but 8 of them have gone tits-up in the past 4 months.
Second factor, I am literally going to be forced to buy Chinese solar panels, which I refuse to do, as I do for most any Chinese product which I have a choice to avoid. Competition from them is a fierce matter that will require a MASSIVE change in our buying habits, willingness to pay more and purchase fewer goods and long term industry support from the government(ie the public) to rebuild and retool our industries.


Now, what Obama's bill aims to do is merely ramp up short-term hiring to further attempt a short term rise in domestic spending and consumption. That, if successful, would lower stress on domestic industries and businesses, but doesn't ever claim to deal with the long-term picture.

More to say later....[/quote]