The attack at Ft. Hood

[callmeslick]

no one's after your stuff, ruggie(anyway, what would the government do with a pickup truck,a killer flight sim setup, some guitars and spandex outfits ).....it is specific to private property. And, while my gut agrees with your sentiment, at the end of the day, you are dead, and they have your land. Completely legally, to boot. There have to be specific limitations put into the laws governing eminent domain, as the court ruling cited the loose nature of precedent for land-grabs, and the lack of specificity in the laws, as the reasons for ruling in New London's favor.

[Yellow77]

I think the military would be stronger if they eliminated religion altogether. Then people wouldn't have lame excuses for the things they do.

My supreme being is better than yours.
No mine is better than yours.

[Darkhorse]

Question for Darkhorse? Do you also have an informed opinion on the leadership in the Army? and has it been corrupted by Political Correctness?

The military leadership is fine, the PC crap is pushed down from the administration in power at the time. PC does throw a monkey wrench into the works.

As much as I historically dislike FDR/Truman, at least they let the American Military "fight" WWII...and that war was won in less than four years

Pudfark there are a couple of books you need to read; the auto-biographies of Ike and Monty. You will learn the politics from the leaders of the allied powers played a major roll in the war.

...and I believe that the following events markedly shortened that war...Dresden, Tokyo and even Hiroshima....and as I am sure you well know....each, with a high density civilian population........ I am well aware that the term "collateral damage" is often used by the folks.....that lost nothing... Your opinion on current matters is meaningful...and your opinion on matters in the past, I believe, would be too......

The allied bombing campaign was a disaster, the 8th AF lost more men than the USMC did in the whole of the Pacific theater. Until the P-51 was modified so that it could stay with the bombers the Germans were kicking ass. As far as the bombing of the civilian population it did not turn the people against the Nazis as was hoped for it did the opposite. There is strong evidence that dropping of the A-bombs prevented the invasion of Japan.

The wars we are fighting today we need the locals to be allied with us to succeed so collateral damage needs to stay at a minimum.

[Darkhorse]

let me re-phrase it. My fear is that, having overstayed our welcome and doing a mix of military missions, civilian projects, drug eradication and nation-building, we are in a poor position to suddenly refocus to a solely military mission. Further, our top command(Petreaus and down) seem to want to follow the 'counterinsurgency' playbook, which will take a lot of troops and a lot of time. That strategy, IMO, will not work with the Afghans. Their tribal warrior-culture has very little tolerance of outsiders, be they British,
Russian or American. They, I suspect, simply will not join forces with any non-Afghans, even if the purpose of the cooperation makes complete sense.

My answer was a little thin, I apologize. Two pieces of the big picture: Al Qaeda was able to hit us on our own soil and the Pakis have nukes that are not very secure. We must prevent our population from getting hit in there homes and keep the nukes out of the hands of the bad guys. As for the rest of it it's a crap shoot. I agree with you on the counterinsurgency piece, the best we could do is spot counterinsurgency but that will never have an end to it. I think that an Allied puppet government is the way to go but the PC thing will probably prevent that.

[Darkhorse]

Tokyo, debatable

One of the main reasons that Tokyo (and other cities) was carpet/fire bombed was we wiped out the Japanese industrial complex and they turned to "Mom and Pop" manufacturing, it was the only way it could be hit.

[Darkhorse]

I think the military would be stronger if they eliminated religion altogether

Ya lost me, I need a little more!

Then people wouldn't have lame excuses for the things they do.

[Pudfark]

Howdy DarkHorse,

Damn, we are burning the midnite oil....
I appreciate your response....I am aware of the political influences and major decisions affecting our military leaders in WWII....and they still managed to fight a multi-front war and prevail in under four years....and my bad for not making it more apparent...good solid answer from you...

Howdy DD,
My reference to those three cities, was in regard to the number of civilian casualties and the fact that the civilian population was deliberately targeted.....Can you imagine that being done now? Several Hundred thousand civilians targeted and killed?....in three bombing raids. Makes me believe, that "Predators" are for sissies.....I say, B52's and CBU's....limited nukes if needed....

Yawn..I gotta rest up...need to go to California and pee on Pelosi's grapes....since she just shit on my family....I can see it now..Pelosi's Fine Whine, shaped like a rectal thermometer and tastes like pee, here have some and don't forget to pay the bill....and the tax....leave a tip.

Nite Everbodie,

Pudfark........

[Dawg]

let me re-phrase it. My fear is that, having overstayed our welcome and doing a mix of military missions, civilian projects, drug eradication and nation-building, we are in a poor position to suddenly refocus to a solely military mission. Further, our top command(Petreaus and down) seem to want to follow the 'counterinsurgency' playbook, which will take a lot of troops and a lot of time.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[callmeslick]

Dawg, how enlightening. It's always such a hoot when you stop by. Is Monday your usual day to stop in?
How soon does your report have to be filed?

[ruggbutt]

no one's after your stuff, ruggie.

They're after everyone's stuff.