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[Pudfark]

CUDA,
I don't know who, if anyone, is intentionally lying about Libya.

They did..he did and still is.. you know it and I know it.

no,I don't and neither do you. We know nothing beyond what we read on the internet, and most all of that is speculation. Ok, why is the "truth" hidden from us. Who is responsible for hiding the truth. Who is legally and morally obligated to tell us the truth? Obama?

General Patreaus testified before congress that he said it was a terrorist attack within 24 hours. General Patreaus is part of the president's cabinet and advised the president of what happened in the Consulate attack on 9-11. the President HIMSELF with knowledge of what he was briefed on. KNOWING it was terrorism went out not once but at least 3 times went before the American people and the world (UN) and said it was about a video, when he know that it was not about a video. that is a LIE

except for the fact(FACT) that he did not. Videotape will show that on at least two occaisions,the President referred to terrorism. Further, the remarks around the video were an attempt to explain ONE of MANY sources of Mideast tension toward the US, not this specific incident. Please, quit letting your imagination, coupled with your Obama Hard-On color your normally semi-sound judgement. Why did Obama allow Clinton and Rice to perpetuate the "video myth", if what you're saying is true? Why hasn't the "video myth" been recanted? Why was, who did, what for, was the CIA written briefing redacted and the word "act of terroism" removed?

lie
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noun
1.
a false statement made with deliberate intent to deceive; an intentional untruth; a falsehood.
2.
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let me point out Joe Biden's lie. Joe Biden said during the debate that they were just reporting what the intelligence agencies told them. but we know that the intelligence agency told them that it was terrorism. but the administration has NEVER said it was terrorism and continues to say that it's about a Video. that is a LIE

no that is untrue of you to claim as I pointed out above, but what you keep spouting is starting to stretch both the truth and common sense. Like Pud, you seem to think that the US can control the Arab or larger Muslim world. We cannot. Slick, it really is beneath you to be deliberately obtuse...your ranting about "controlling the arab world " is stale and uninformed. A very poor and transparent tactic to steer this discussion away from the truth.

Why are you not demanding the truth Slick? Based upon what you have chosen to write here? I believe you are very afraid of it. I am. There are "reasons" it is not being told. Four people died, many people lied. Here we are....entertaining, your "contribution" towards seeking the truth. Can you "handle" the truth? By using the word "handle", I don't mean bending, folding or shaping the truth. I mean, the telling of the truth, unvarnished.

[Buzz]

FACTour consulate was attacked on 9/11
FACTour intelligence community knew it was terrorism with-in 24 hours. (Patreaus testified to such)
FACTthe white house was briefed on the attack and told it was terrorism
FACTthe UN Ambassador said it was a bout a video 5 times in one day when they already had been told it was terrorism ( a lie)
FACTthe President said it was about a Video multiple times when he was personally told by his CIA director that it was not about a video but was terrorim(a Lie)
FACTit was NEVER about a Video.
FACTyou will continue to deny the facts because it doesn't fit your agenda

except for the fact(FACT) that he did not. Videotape will show that on at least two occaisions,the President referred to terrorism.

FACT but he never referred to THIS act as terrorism. try not to distort the truth

You seem to accept facts when they're convenient for you. You never accepted any facts they showed Romney in a negative way, but accept all against Obama. Before you say it. I'm not taking Obama's side. I'm simply pointing out your double standard.

I'll call it..........Selective Fact Acceptance.

[Pudfark]

It was tempting to borrow CUDA's thunder...Buzz.
Nothing you wrote above...could be further from the truth.

It seems you have a convenient memory...
Lucky you...it's not for me to "set" you straight on this.

I politely...defer to CUDA on this matter....

[Pudfark]

The ugly truth about Benghazi and Team Obama

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/11/ ... z2ChBEuvbm

Here are some interesting quotes from the above.

"Until Friday, there were two possible explanations for why the White House failed to immediately call the Benghazi attack an act of terrorism. One was incompetence, the other was worse."

"Now there is only one, and it is the worse one."

"Petraeus told the truth as he knew it, even though the administration announced the day before that it was investigating his conduct at the CIA.
If that was meant to pressure him to protect the president, it failed spectacularly."

"Democrats are predictably and shamefully trying to deny the significance of Petraeus’ revelation."

"the country would be better served if the administration co-operates. But their behavior up to now does not make that seem likely. Having built their web of lies, it would be hard to suddenly come clean."

"Any attempt by the White House to block the appearance of any official who played a role in shaping the false narrative should be seen as proof that the stonewalling continues."

"Nobody is above the law, even the president."

The link posted above is well worth the click...

[CUDA]

You seem to accept facts when they're convenient for you.

I accept facts for what they are. not for the agenda that I wish to put forth unlike you and slick.

You never accepted any facts they showed Romney in a negative way,

PLEASE point me to the FACT that I denied anything about what Romney said. because it didn't happen

but accept all against Obama. Before you say it. I'm not taking Obama's side. I'm simply pointing out your double standard.

I have shown no double standard. I originally pointed out your as you put it SELECTIVE use of the facts. and your refusal to address ANYTHING that Obama said that was untrue. I still find it fascinating that you cannot understand that. that you still have a hard-on for a man that was defeated during an election provided your one sided reality to get forth your agenda and defeat Romney. Congrats it worked. now ask your self a question. will you be honest and call Obama a liar??

I'll call it..........Selective Fact Acceptance.

like what you did with Our original conversation

[Pudfark]

FACTour consulate was attacked on 9/11
FACTour intelligence community knew it was terrorism with-in 24 hours. (Patreaus testified to such)
FACTthe white house was briefed on the attack and told it was terrorism
FACTthe UN Ambassador said it was a bout a video 5 times in one day when they already had been told it was terrorism ( a lie)
FACTthe President said it was about a Video multiple times when he was personally told by his CIA director that it was not about a video but was terrorim(a Lie)
FACTit was NEVER about a Video.
FACTyou will continue to deny the facts because it doesn't fit your agenda

except for the fact(FACT) that he did not. Videotape will show that on at least two occaisions,the President referred to terrorism.

FACT but he never referred to THIS act as terrorism. try not to distort the truth

You seem to accept facts when they're convenient for you. You never accepted any facts they showed Romney in a negative way, but accept all against Obama. Before you say it. I'm not taking Obama's side. I'm simply pointing out your double standard.

I'll call it..........Selective Fact Acceptance.

Buzz wrote:
"Lets see if we can get back to what Romney said about Jeep. You called that my opinion. Still true?"

CUDA wrote:
"what I said was that you were ignoring that both sides did the same thing. Romney was wrong. he lost the election. FACT. now lets answer some of my questions. did Obama LIE and does he continue to LIE about Benghazi?? which "LIE" is more detrimental to the health of this nation??"

These two quotes above, were taken in context from the thread viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2959&start=40#p24977 on page 5 and were written on Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:12 pm

To put it bluntly Buzz...if you're gonna use the word "standard"? Make damn sure, you apply it to yourself, first.

I beg your pardon CUDA. Though, I did leave a little meat on the bone for ya...

[Buzz]

You seem to accept facts when they're convenient for you.

I accept facts for what they are. not for the agenda that I wish to put forth unlike you and slick.

You never accepted any facts they showed Romney in a negative way,

PLEASE point me to the FACT that I denied anything about what Romney said. because it didn't happen

but accept all against Obama. Before you say it. I'm not taking Obama's side. I'm simply pointing out your double standard.

I have shown no double standard. I originally pointed out your as you put it SELECTIVE use of the facts. and your refusal to address ANYTHING that Obama said that was untrue. I still find it fascinating that you cannot understand that. that you still have a hard-on for a man that was defeated during an election provided your one sided reality to get forth your agenda and defeat Romney. Congrats it worked. now ask your self a question. will you be honest and call Obama a liar??

I'll call it..........Selective Fact Acceptance.

like what you did with Our original conversation

Why is it that it's ok for you to not answer a question, but not for me. I didn't answer questions pointed at Obama, because i wasn't backing him. Why should I. I told you that so many times i forgot how many. You were backing Romney, and didn't answer questions about him. Who's wrong here?

It's so damn simple, and I don't get why you two can't get it. I'm not Slick. He's backing Obama. Not me! Then again,HH thinks we're the same guy. Maybe you do too?

[Buzz]

CUDA wrote:
"what I said was that you were ignoring that both sides did the same thing. Romney was wrong. he lost the election. FACT. now lets answer some of my questions. did Obama LIE and does he continue to LIE about Benghazi?? which "LIE" is more detrimental to the health of this nation??"

These two quotes above, were taken in context from the thread viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2959&start=40#p24977 on page 5 and were written on Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:12 pm

To put it bluntly Buzz...if you're gonna use the word "standard"? Make damn sure, you apply it to yourself, first.

I beg your pardon CUDA. Though, I did leave a little meat on the bone for ya...

He never directly answered the question about Jeep. He constantly tried to turn it around on Obama.

Are you his bitch? He can answer for himself.

btw Who did you vote for 4 years ago?

[Pudfark]

He never directly answered the question about Jeep. He constantly tried to turn it around on Obama. "both sides did the same thing. Romney was wrong." Buzz, I'm beginning to believe....that you had jury duty in the fifth grade...

Are you his bitch? He can answer for himself. CUDA did answer for himself. You missed it, yet again. So, I just pointed out the obvious for you.

btw Who did you vote for 4 years ago? It's hard to take you seriously, when you're cracking jokes, Buzz.

[CUDA]

Pud, I never said Romney was a lying son of a bitch and we should throw him in prison for doing exactly what every Presidential candidate does. Including Obama during this campaign.
thats the only thing that will satisfy Buzz.

have ya also noticed that he has yet to say anything against Obama. he says he's "no Fan" but he still hasn't said ANYTHING about what the President and this Administration did regarding Benghazi. EVER