What led to the rise of nazism is happening again in Europe.

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nicolas10 wrote: Why is the world becoming more and more global? Is it really good for us? The only benefit I can think of is cheaper iphones. Is it worth it? And even if we accept multiculturalism as a byproduct of globalisation, why promote it that fiercely instead of just letting it happen naturally? Can't deny that everyone and their mother and slick are promoting it very actively.
who the hell is promoting it? It IS just happening due to(as I stated before) a complete revolution in communications and other technologies. I suspect you feel that it is being promoted, because of the speed in which the changes are occurring. What is going on, however, is simply the ever quicker nature of change over time, which makes the whole thing seem accelerated unnaturally. Look, you can either adapt, or not. The world with either pass you by, or provide you opportunities, albeit new and different ones. Your pick.
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callmeslick wrote:is simply the ever quicker nature of change over time, which makes the whole thing seem accelerated unnaturally. Look, you can either adapt, or not.
We have had thousands of years to intermingle if it was meant to happen dont you think it would have by now?
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fatman wrote:
callmeslick wrote:is simply the ever quicker nature of change over time, which makes the whole thing seem accelerated unnaturally. Look, you can either adapt, or not.
We have had thousands of years to intermingle if it was meant to happen dont you think it would have by now?
It has been happening, Fatman. Do you think the aborigines, for example, didn't 'intermingle' with the British settlers? My ancestors, likewise, 'intermingled'
with native Americans, and then shipped over Africans to 'intermingle' and the whole of American history is one big story of wildly diverse 'intermingling'.
As I tried to point out, as time goes forward, the speed of change tends to accelerate, the speed of progress accelerates, and thus globalization continues at an ever-quicker pace. Look at technological progress: My Grandfather listened to the radio and sent letters to communicate. The phone system depended on switchboards. My father has, over his 93 years, seen communication move into the modern computer age. I've gone from TV on a 19 inch black and white screen to 80 inch LCD displays, from 4 channels to 400. Gawd knows what technology alone will be part of my grandchildren's lives. Human interaction and social conduct work similarly. When I was a kid, people of color weren't even allowed to use the same water fountains or restrooms as me. My daughter is virtually color-blind, my grandkids will be oblivious, in all likelyhood, to even nationalities. So it goes, and as I said, one can either adapt, or have the world pass you by.
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[quote="callmeslick"It has been happening, Fatman. Do you think the aborigines, for example, didn't 'intermingle' with the British settlers? My ancestors, likewise, 'intermingled'[/quote]

Seperate settlements and all and they sure didnt intermingle and live together as one big happy family as the powers to be seem to have such a hard on over, look at us meant to be one big multicultural society but there are enclaves everywhere these blow in much prefer to live amongst themselves its human nature

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callmeslick wrote:who the hell is promoting it? It IS just happening due to(as I stated before) a complete revolution in communications and other technologies. I suspect you feel that it is being promoted, because of the speed in which the changes are occurring. What is going on, however, is simply the ever quicker nature of change over time, which makes the whole thing seem accelerated unnaturally. Look, you can either adapt, or not. The world with either pass you by, or provide you opportunities, albeit new and different ones. Your pick.
I disagree with you. And it is promoted actively. There is a franco-german channel which is sold as a "cultural channel", and in EVERY one of their documentary about a city or a region they manage to say it's nice because it is "cosmopolitan".

It reminds me of an anectote, when a few months back I was watching with my dad & my brother a documentary about brighton, where my dad had been on vacation before. And since my dad is a leftist, I had to provoke him a bit so here goes the conversation:

Me: - what's nice about Brighton is that it's very cosmopolitan
My dad: - you're right it's very nice
Me: - I was joking, it's an Arte documentary, they will say it's nice because it's cosmopolitan
My dad: - oh stop with your fascist rethoric
The television: - with all the students living there, Brighton is a city of partying: cosmopolitan ambiance guaranteed
Me: -hahahahaha
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nicolas10 wrote:I disagree with you. And it is promoted actively. There is a franco-german channel which is sold as a "cultural channel", and in EVERY one of their documentary about a city or a region they manage to say it's nice because it is "cosmopolitan".
for Gods sake, Nic, 'cosmopolitan' has been a trendy description in some circles since Paris circa 1900.
Me: - what's nice about Brighton is that it's very cosmopolitan
My dad: - you're right it's very nice
Me: - I was joking, it's an Arte documentary, they will say it's nice because it's cosmopolitan
My dad: - oh stop with your fascist rethoric
The television: - with all the students living there, Brighton is a city of partying: cosmopolitan ambiance guaranteed
Me: -hahahahaha
your Dad is right, you are given to fascist rhetoric.
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Comopolite in french still to this day is mostly associated with finance and isn't a very positive word. But they're working on it.

Completely lost on you is the fact that EVERY documentary about whatever place in the world contains exactly the same verbiage.

Anyway I'll cease replying to you whatsoever. I don't like arguing with people who don't answer to every point but only quote the parts they like and make as if they didn't even see the other parts.

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Just ask one question at a time.
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The word "cosmopolitan" as used in the UK usually means "mixed". Which in itself could mean a place full of foreigners or with foreign style bars etc. Also it can mean trendy or cool, or chic.

Brighton is very cosmopolitan as it happens, not so much in the ethnic make up of the town, but in the fact it was quite an open place for gay people to live and work in. ( I lived along the coast a few miles in Eastbourne, which was a tea planters retirement home in the main ). Brighton had a huge club scene which included gay and mixed gay/hetro pubs and clubs. Lot's of arty farties, and some older retired tea planters too. Not quite Haight-Ashbury or Greenwich Village, but outside London, probably as close as you could get in the UK.

Not to mention the magazine "Cosmopolitan" which I'm sure has nothing to do with finance apart from the money it makes selling ideas to the aspiring masses.

So in English, the word is an aspiration for many, or a badge of coolness, or a descriptor for a varied and vibrant lifestyle or area. Even in my City, Glasgow, when flats/houses are advertised in the West End or parts of the South side, the word cosmopolitan is used as a selling point.
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You'se guys are ahead of us... the word will soon mean the same here 8-)

Anyway this little script was to show that Brighton could be cosmopolitan alright, the fact remains that for this channel, every other place is cosmopolitan, so much so that I can guess they'll use that term in this documentary too.

Any comment on my previous posts bawbag?

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