The Bill

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Toth's proposal would create a Class A misdemeanor for police officers enforcing any new federal gun regulations. It also would establish cause for the state attorney general to sue anyone who seeks to enforce new federal gun regulations


this is simply not constitutional, and clearly established as such since the mid-19th century. You cannot make it a crime for someone to uphold Federal law. You cannot sue for enforcing a Federal law. As Pud says, enforcement is optional, but cannot be made CRIMINAL.

How's that dance for y'all, Pud? :P
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Reservoir_Dog wrote:And what about the National Guard?
The States own the National Guard, not the Feds!
Now we have demonstrable evidence that if you try to lead from behind, eventually the guys up front will stop looking back for instructions.
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I think the National Guard units are jointly controlled by both state and fed, depending on status, and to some degree are 'owned' by the fed due to funding. The ultimate authority for each Guard service is an active duty service chief, AFAIK. Which is why I didn't accept an offer to fly Blackhawks for a Guard unit a few years back.... it wasn't going to end up with weekend warrior activities in the state, I was probably going to be activated and end up rock-hoppin' the hills of Afghanistan.
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I read it's part of the DoD.
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Texas bill would block police from enforcing new federal gun laws

AUSTIN, Texas – Under a measure advancing in the Texas Capitol, local police officers could be convicted of a crime for enforcing any new federal gun control laws.

Rep. Steve Toth, a newly elected Republican from the Woodlands, said his proposal would prevent officers from carrying out any future federal orders to confiscate assault rifles and ammunition magazines.

Toth's proposal would create a Class A misdemeanor for police officers enforcing any new federal gun regulations. It also would establish cause for the state attorney general to sue anyone who seeks to enforce new federal gun regulations. It is one of several states-rights measures being offered by conservative state lawmakers nationwide in response to federal gun control proposals.


FOX NEWS LINK: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02 ... z2ArsDiM25

It also would establish cause for the state attorney general to sue anyone who seeks to enforce new federal gun regulations. This would be the part you missed and the other end of the stick.....Slick ;)
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by the way, Obama is the fella who taught everybody?
How to ignore the law. It's real easy for Texans to ignore
Federal Law...as in, we won't and don't have to enforce it.

No more, than Obama does.... ;)

Historically, before Obama, cooperation was expected and given when required.
It's never been mandated by law. Because of Obama? They gonna have to pass
some new laws.....good luck with that.
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we have a Constitution, and precedent law around State's Rights vs. Supremacy of Federal Law. Like I say, this bill won't get anywhere, in the long run, just makes some guy a hero to his wingnut base........note the response here, and from whom.
Pudfark wrote: Mon May 29, 2017 11:15 am I live in Texas....you live in America.
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That (above) has as much to do with "States" enforcing Federal Law...as this?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/ne ... RADOR.html

Yes...and I do believe the dog is smarter than you "gun grabbers".... :P
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