Student Debt vs Graduate Jobs

[callmeslick]

What does 30-40 years of employment have to do with a young persons very limited job opportunities under Obama?

because the only way to consider that value of taking on debt for a college degree is to look at the opportunity for income over a career. Also, who says job opportunities for grads has been limited 'under Obama'....they've been steadily improving. As, by the way, I demonstrated.

Remember? Student Debt vs Graduate Jobs that's the topic here?

right, and as I clearly stated above, the debt is money well spent for virtually anyone.

No change in the plan, Obama and you brought sequestration into the mix. Confusing isn't it. It was meant to be originally, by Obama.

actually, no, you brought it up in the context of this discussion, and I have no doubt that others saw it as you bailing visibly after losing the debate.

[Pudfark]

I'll make it simples for ya.

No Job = Bad
No Job and Debt = Worse than Bad
No Job and No Debt = Bad
Bullshit, No Job, Debt = Contagious Fatal Bad

Cure = No Bullshit, No Debt, Get/Make Job
Obama = Bullshit, Debt, No Job.

No Job = No House, No Future, No Life, No Wife, No Strife.

Even you should understand that....Slick.

[callmeslick]

all I understand from that gibberish is that you're too stupid to handle logic, or facts, and have simply chosen CWOS as the place to display the fact.

[Pudfark]

I do believe yer overwrought with the "sequester".

Well truth be told, Slick.
Sometimes talking to you is like?
Bringing a lollipop to a rectal exam...folks wonder?

Why ya didn't bring some gum.

All of the above?
Makes as much sense as you do.

[callmeslick]

uh-huh.....more sense, digested with easy to read charts:
http://americanradioworks.publicradio.o ... egree.html

[Pudfark]

I gave that a serious type read.
It still made me laugh.
Were you aware the newest of that there pertinent info?
Is from 2009.

I did have some fun with this though....

""Skills that used to be reserved for senior technical people or managers are more and more required" of everyone, says Carnevale. "It's less a matter of standing in front of a machine and doing the same thing over and over again" and more about "exploiting the machine, interacting with customers and interacting with your co-workers."

As a result, workers across a range of occupations need better communication and problem-solving skills than they used to. Tell that to a plumber, who out earns your average college grad. The next time yer shitter's broke call a "grad".

College-educated people not only tend to have higher earnings than people without degrees, they are also more likely to have health and retirement benefits with their jobs, and they are far less likely to be unemployed. And having a degree is not just about economic advantages. People with college degrees are more likely to be satisfied with their jobs. They are more likely to read to their children, which helps their kids be better prepared for school than other children. People with degrees are also healthier.

I have all of that. Retirement Pay and Health Care. Got it without Obama.
It's the years in college, I spent...that were wasted. Eighth grade in Virginia was
more enlightening and a far superior education. I actually told that to the Dean, as I was leaving. Out of fairness, what you posted isn't "actual", it's an idea. In the past it had some merit. Now, you just hope...that somehow, someway it's applicable. I hope it is too. I don't see it, now. The way Obama is choosing to "run" this country? Business folks seem to share my view. Sorta like riding a horse, a good one? Can be neck reigned. One that don't like ya? Ya damn near gotta jerk the bit outta their mouth. That's what we've had the last four years and maybe the next four.

[Barfly]

Nice chart and study, as you say Slick easily digested, but also not very filling. An advanced degree in a technical field is still very valuable today, possibly more so than in the past, and a liberal arts degree, of which there are far too many, is worth much less. It's my hope, that young people leaving high school, looking to develop a professional career, make the decision early to get on a path to success, rather than expect to find a path, deep into their college education, and deep into debt.

[Pudfark]

Debt is a damned ugly word to Dem's.
It's like "death" to them.

Debt is only for us pilgrims.
It's not applicable to them.

Which is why? We have so much Debt.
Sorta like...They "throw" the party and the invites and
take the "credit".
We ain't invited and are expected to pay the bill.
That's America Now.

I want back the America, we had.
Where it was....Your Party, Your Invite and Your Bill.

Gonna mention the ugly "sequestration" momentarily.
If the Dem's can't handle a measly 5% reduction now?
Then, for sure, all that talk about paying down 16.5 trillion in Debt?
Is fer shit. They have no intention of doing that.

[Buzz]

Still don't get it Pud?

It's not the 85 billion the sequester it taking. It's from what programs it's being taken from that's bad.

Try and remember that.

[Pudfark]

It will be taken from whatever programs Obama has chosen and the Military.
What about that, do you not believe? Hell, the Repubes offered him a greater selection of choices and Obama refused them. You try and remember this, it'll ease yer suffering.