Detroit

[Pudfark]

Why Obama doesn't dare speak about Detroit

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/07/ ... t-detroit/

A city run down by Dems for the last 50 years. Detroit is an icon for Obama's economic policies.
Saving Detroit, now? Is about as worthwhile...as a scared man with a bucket, on the Titanic.

Here's a dab more:

ObamaCare Bailout? Detroit reportedly eyes health care law to cut costs

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07 ... z2aRn5TOKG

Both links are an excellent read and a forecast for the immediate future. Obama's future for America?
Everybody will be living under the same bridge.....except him.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/2 ... ostpopular

[callmeslick]

Detroit's issues are complex and not at all political, really. It has to do with making long-term obligations and then losing populace quickly(65% in less than 2 decades).
As for the HuffPost piece, that is a reprint of a study that was in all the business papers today. If you go and read it, it has NOTHING to do with Obama's management of the economy(although it speaks to why he has tried, desperately, to push the US into long-term economic stability and planning). It is merely a study following the trajectory of the past 20 years and projecting forward. As such, it says essentially what I've been telling all of you for a decade: most of you are heading, unknowingly, to a future of poverty and thus, servitude. Our economy, since the early 80's has been geared to reward investment and not reward work. That is exactly the blueprint needed to put 80% of the population into poverty, and NO ONE has stepped forward, within government to change that trajectory. I supported Obama in large part because he has been one of very few who have even attempted to come up with a path to reverse it, but, sadly, has been met with resistance to every aspect of his ideas and gotten no fresh ideas from any quarter. Cutting taxes and government support has been shown to merely accelerate the decline at the same time as increasing the hardships on the victims.

[Pudfark]

Detroit's issues are complex and not at all political, really. So the Dem's elected for the last 50 years are not to blame? Who is? Certainly, not the Republicans


Our economy, since the early 80's has been geared to reward investment and not reward work. That is exactly the blueprint needed to put 80% of the population into poverty, and NO ONE has stepped forward, within government to change that trajectory. I supported Obama in large part because he has been one of very few who have even attempted to come up with a path to reverse it, but, sadly, has been met with resistance to every aspect of his ideas and gotten no fresh ideas from any quarter. What about the Keystone Pipeline and the JOBS it will create? Cutting taxes and government support has been shown to merely accelerate the decline at the same time as increasing the hardships on the victims. How does 6+trillion more dollars in debt help the "victims"? Further, how does raising the price of medical insurance and increasing the numbers of part time employment for some...ObamaCare, taxation and over regulation which are responsible for this HUGE PROBLEM and your afore mentioned "decline" and Obama's total ignore, help the situation. Oh, that's right...he hasn't helped the situation, he only makes excuses for it, like you do, while still investing in the "stock market" and not in JOBS.

Sorry to butcher up your quote above...
However, your empty explain/rhetoric...doesn't create anything for the folks in need. Everybody is damn tired of the excuses put forth by Obama. Where are the "shovel ready" jobs Obama promised?
Where are the "health care" savings? Why are you not up Obama's hind end about the corruption in his administration? Really Slick, what kind of "change" is this? How's about a "transparent" viewpoint this time? Instead of the normal, per usual "opaque" one.

None of that above is intended harshly towards your person, Slick. I'm just a dab fed up today.

[HappyHappy]

Clear as mud, the color of Callmesick's reputation

HH

[callmeslick]

gee, it's looking like Obamacare is going to save a lot of people a lot of money, especially in states working with the plan. Where is this massive corruption you speak of, and give me examples comparing it to corruption in other administrations, notably Bush the Younger and Reagan?That would be fun to discuss. I note that you, even earlier than other rightwing types on other boards, rather quickly bail from analyzing the Detroit case. Good call, save yourself the embarassing sight of self-destruction.

[Pudfark]

Here's a current example of the "Obama Opaque Transparency".

Workers at ObamaCare call center angry after being offered jobs without health benefits

A soon-to-be-opened call center meant to help teach the public about ObamaCare is under fire for offering many of its new employees part-time positions — in turn denying them benefits under the very law they are helping to implement.

The Contra Costa Times reports the call center, which is set to be opened Oct. 1, attracted about 7,000 applicants for 200 jobs after the county won the right to operate it earlier this year. Many workers and local politicians say they believed that the majority of the positions at the center would be full-time with benefits.

However, about half the workers were actually offered part-time positions with no benefits. Some say they only learned the positions were part-time after completing an orientation earlier this month.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07 ... z2aTnN73Iv

I sure hope Obama's resident shill here, can explain this wonderful ploy to us. Perhaps, this is the
"mouse trap plan"...ya know? Bait & Switch, Carrot & Stick? What is it about 7000 folks applying
for two hundred jobs, that indicates the success of the Obama "Plan" and then denying 100 of them "obamacare" benefits? Maybe, the best part of the plan is? One hundred folks will have a full time job with "bennies" and another hundred will have a part time job with nothing? Let's just forget about the 6800 who got fucked....in the "Obama process".

It seems Obama "pundits" all share one thing in common?
They don't have to rely on Obama for anything, they just advocate that everybody else, should and will.

[Pudfark]

gee, it's looking like Obamacare is going to save a lot of people a lot of money, especially in states working with the plan. Where is this massive corruption you speak of, and give me examples comparing it to corruption in other administrations, notably Bush the Younger and Reagan?That would be fun to discuss. I note that you, even earlier than other rightwing types on other boards, rather quickly bail from analyzing the Detroit case. Good call, save yourself the embarassing sight of self-destruction.

Waiting to see the numbers that go with your opinion?
The corruption is Benghazi SOS, IRS, DOJ...start there.
Analyzing Detroit...is a simple math lesson, first. Then, it's a history lesson, read.
Detroit is proof positive of 50 years of neglecting the math, hosing the middle class and following/writing
the progressive hand book....on handouts.

[callmeslick]

you'll see the numbers roll in all autumn long. Oh, and where does getting a part-time job imply anything about Obamacare, which deals with insurance that is private and employer based? The 'scandals' you cite are a combination of fiction(Bengazi, DOJ) and one rooted in a complex implementation process(IRS). Iran Contra? Hardly. Halliburton excesses? Get real.

Your analysis of Detroit has utterly no foundation in reality, so not worth debate in it's present form. Come back after you've seen the balance sheets for the years before 1990(when the auto industry exodus started), and think about the sharp decline in middle class incomes. There are major lessons to be learned around building an entire regional economy around one industry(Pittsburgh and others have learned similar lessons), but there is NOTHING that can point to the influence of welfare or other 'liberal' ideas and the downfall of Detroit's credit.

[HappyHappy]

Callmeshit defends the party chairman at all costs.
Democrats/Communists have slowly degenerated into the petty
Stalinists they are today. They create a massive mess of scandal
and criminal acts, and as per human nature, cover up and or
dismiss them in some way.

Callmeshit is nothing more or less than a moronic Town Crier.
A minion of the party spouting the party's hard line.

HH

[callmeslick]

as always, HH brings nothing to the table save hate-speech. Must be a sad life that he leads.