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[nicolas10]

Slick I understand Nic being an antisemite; he's French, but you!

ROFL

[Darkhorse]

The tone of the posts you put in this thread make you sound like a supporter of the Hamas and me being of Jewish descent I am a little touchy in this area. I apologize for making that assumption. As for Nic, read his posting history, the French part was a jab at the Dreyfus affair. Slick you are becoming a stuffed shirt, let some hot air out dude!

Of course the IDF admitted to the use of WP. It is used extenisvly by modorn armies during combat manuvers. You’re suggesting that it was used to target civilians or used illegally in built up areas (see my post above).
As for your anti-personnel weapon claim I am going to need more information, I think your terminology is wrong so give me a link so that I can understand what it is you are referring to.

[callmeslick]

Fair enough explanation, DH, but you DO realize that one of the issues which develops with those in the states, and elsewhere who support Israel, is the tendency to yell "Anti-Semite!!" at any who would cast any doubt on the imperfections within the State of Israel? Question an oppressive settlement policy?
Anti-Semite. Question over-zealous military action(and yes, I am VERY aware of the restraint that has been shown on other times): Anti-Semite. It gets a bit annoying to those trying to strike a balance, and must seem almost laughable to Muslim Semitic peoples.

[nicolas10]

The tone of the posts you put in this thread make you sound like a supporter of the Hamas and me being of Jewish descent I am a little touchy in this area. I apologize for making that assumption. As for Nic, read his posting history, the French part was a jab at the Dreyfus affair. Slick you are becoming a stuffed shirt, let some hot air out dude!

You are very mistaken if you think Israel & zionism has anything to do with authentic judaism. For an authentic jew, the land of Israel will be given to them after the return of the messiah. So either I was asleep when the jewish messiah came back, or zionists consider sabbatai tsévi as their true messiah (which is scary in its own right), or they are frankists and are stirring shit to accelerate the arrival of the messiah, which is supposed to happen after times of great sorrow (which is even more creepy than the sabbataist part).

Equating zionism & judaism is the zionist reply anytime someone questions their deeds. Anti zionism is equated as antisemitism. Very convenient indeed. BTW the palestinians are semites...

Nic

[Pudfark]

Fair enough explanation, DH, but you DO realize that one of the issues which develops with those in the states, and elsewhere who support Israel, is the tendency to yell "Anti-Semite!!" at any who would cast any doubt on the imperfections within the State of Israel? Question an oppressive settlement policy?
Anti-Semite. Question over-zealous military action(and yes, I am VERY aware of the restraint that has been shown on other times): Anti-Semite. It gets a bit annoying to those trying to strike a balance, and must seem almost laughable to Muslim Semitic peoples.

Damn....
Sorta like you running around here.......calling folks a "racist".......all the time, "ad nauseam".

[Darkhorse]

The tone of the posts you put in this thread make you sound like a supporter of the Hamas and me being of Jewish descent I am a little touchy in this area. I apologize for making that assumption. As for Nic, read his posting history, the French part was a jab at the Dreyfus affair. Slick you are becoming a stuffed shirt, let some hot air out dude!

You are very mistaken if you think Israel & zionism has anything to do with authentic judaism. For an authentic jew, the land of Israel will be given to them after the return of the messiah. So either I was asleep when the jewish messiah came back, or zionists consider sabbatai tsévi as their true messiah (which is scary in its own right), or they are frankists and are stirring shit to accelerate the arrival of the messiah, which is supposed to happen after times of great sorrow (which is even more creepy than the sabbataist part).

Equating zionism & judaism is the zionist reply anytime someone questions their deeds. Anti zionism is equated as antisemitism. Very convenient indeed. BTW the palestinians are semites...

Nic

Most Israelis just want to uphold their Jewish identity and oppose the assimilation of Jews into other societies. It is very hard to prevent assimilation without their own state. All that you have written above I understand very well, probably more so than you.

[nicolas10]

Most Israelis just want to uphold their Jewish identity and oppose the assimilation of Jews into other societies. It is very hard to prevent assimilation without their own state. All that you have written above I understand very well, probably more so than you.

You make it sound like Israel is to the jews what the gay pride is to homosexuals.

Creepy.

Nic