Single Payer blues...
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callmeslick
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Pudfark
Re: Single Payer blues...
callmeslick wrote:trust me on this, Pud, I have NO DESIRE to see your email.
Oh well....buy'em books send'm to school....and all they do is eat the covers.... 
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Pudfark
Re: Single Payer blues...
Back on topic...
I would be much interested on/in your views of the link below.
I know....the read will be unpopular to you.
It is relevant to this thread.
I am not asking you to refute it...you can. Just to read it and maybe comment?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ ... story.html
A couple of quotes from the link above:
"Look what happened just last week. Health and Human Services unilaterally and without warning changed coverage deadlines and guidelines. It asked insurers to start covering people on Jan. 1 even if they signed up as late as the day before and even if they hadn’t paid their premiums. And is “strongly encouraging” them to pay during the transition for doctor visits and medicines not covered in their current plans (if covered in the patient’s previous — canceled — plan).
On what authority does a Cabinet secretary tell private companies to pay for services not in their plans and cover people not on their rolls? Where in Obamacare’s 2,500 pages are such high-handed dictates authorized? Does anyone even ask? The bill itself is simply taken as a kind of blanket warrant for HHS to run, regulate and control the whole insurance system."
"Obamacare posed as a free-market alternative to a British-style single-payer system. Then, during congressional debate, the White House ostentatiously rejected the so-called “public option.” But that’s irrelevant. The whole damn thing is the public option. The federal government now runs the insurance market, dictating deadlines, procedures, rates, risk assessments and coverage requirements. It’s gotten so cocky it’s now telling insurers to cover the claims that, by law, they are not required to."
"Welcome 2014, our first taste of nationalized health care."
There is more to it, than I quoted above. There's a whole lot more to it (I believe) that is yet to come. It will come and it will begin, after Jan. 1.
As is, what is and what can be? I think you'll agree, this is horrendous for everybody and it is, not what was intended.
I would be much interested on/in your views of the link below.
I know....the read will be unpopular to you.
It is relevant to this thread.
I am not asking you to refute it...you can. Just to read it and maybe comment?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ ... story.html
A couple of quotes from the link above:
"Look what happened just last week. Health and Human Services unilaterally and without warning changed coverage deadlines and guidelines. It asked insurers to start covering people on Jan. 1 even if they signed up as late as the day before and even if they hadn’t paid their premiums. And is “strongly encouraging” them to pay during the transition for doctor visits and medicines not covered in their current plans (if covered in the patient’s previous — canceled — plan).
On what authority does a Cabinet secretary tell private companies to pay for services not in their plans and cover people not on their rolls? Where in Obamacare’s 2,500 pages are such high-handed dictates authorized? Does anyone even ask? The bill itself is simply taken as a kind of blanket warrant for HHS to run, regulate and control the whole insurance system."
"Obamacare posed as a free-market alternative to a British-style single-payer system. Then, during congressional debate, the White House ostentatiously rejected the so-called “public option.” But that’s irrelevant. The whole damn thing is the public option. The federal government now runs the insurance market, dictating deadlines, procedures, rates, risk assessments and coverage requirements. It’s gotten so cocky it’s now telling insurers to cover the claims that, by law, they are not required to."
"Welcome 2014, our first taste of nationalized health care."
There is more to it, than I quoted above. There's a whole lot more to it (I believe) that is yet to come. It will come and it will begin, after Jan. 1.
As is, what is and what can be? I think you'll agree, this is horrendous for everybody and it is, not what was intended.
Re: Single Payer blues...
Dont you guys realise that you already pay more than the system that the rest if the western world runs its like win win if you guys bulk billedPudfark wrote:"Obamacare posed as a free-market alternative to a British-style single-payer system.
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callmeslick
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Re: Single Payer blues...
fatman wrote:Dont you guys realise that you already pay more than the system that the rest if the western world runs its like win win if you guys bulk billedPudfark wrote:"Obamacare posed as a free-market alternative to a British-style single-payer system.
sadly, no, Fats.....around 60% of us get it, and support single payer. The other 40% are preventing progress, by yelling about Communism and Socialism and whatever stupid shit comes to their little pin-heads.
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Pudfark
Re: Single Payer blues...
Hehehe....that was arguably true before the inception of ObamaCare, fatman.callmeslick wrote:fatman wrote:Dont you guys realise that you already pay more than the system that the rest if the western world runs its like win win if you guys bulk billedPudfark wrote:"Obamacare posed as a free-market alternative to a British-style single-payer system.
sadly, no, Fats.....around 60% of us get it, and support single payer. The other 40% are preventing progress, by yelling about Communism and Socialism and whatever stupid shit comes to their little pin-heads.
Now with ObamaCare gumming up the "works"....it's a least twice as true, maybe more...