Walmart health plan is cheaper with more coverage

[Reservoir_Dog]

Oh, and have you realized yet, Pud, that in your first post in this thread, you are comparing a corporate plan(which is subsidized, and a group plan) to individual coverage, which is neither subsidized nor group?

BINGO !!!!

[Pudfark]

Breitbart takes normal conversation on CNN and sensationalizes it. So what? Of course, Clinton will have to answer questions about EVERYTHING during her tenure at State. And, no, Democrats are not cannibalizing a damn soul over the ACA. It has glitches, the Dems are pressuring to fix them, but hell, Virginia's new governor ran on the fact that he is both supportive of the ACA and going to expand it's coverage in the Commonwealth. More gloom and doom from people who see their electoral demise heading towards them, quickly.

Oh, and have you realized yet, Pud, that in your first post in this thread, you are comparing a corporate plan(which is subsidized, and a group plan) to individual coverage, which is neither subsidized nor group? I wonder if you or anyone you ever knew have tried to purchase individual health insurance prior to the ACA. If so, you would not be criticizing the Act, as it has been a godsend, especially to anyone over age 45.

So? Yer sayin' there's no subsidies in ObamaCare?
Further...yer sayin' you and yours..."elected" not to put everybody in the same "enviornment", as the Walmart Plan?
If'n Walmart could do it and still be "profitable"....why couldn't you and yours? Unless of course, it was just a tax on the poor and middle class.....all along. Which, I've said from the beginning.

R_D...you need to sober up a dab.

[callmeslick]

So? Yer sayin' there's no subsidies in ObamaCare?

none that were taken into consideration in your cut and paste 'analysis'. Nope.

Further...yer sayin' you and yours..."elected" not to put everybody in the same "enviornment", as the Walmart Plan?

what idiocy. No one suggested anything like that, only that affordable insurance would be available. For instance, my new plan is equal to or superior to my old group plan, but would cost serious money(same as COBRA for the group).

If'n Walmart could do it and still be "profitable"....why couldn't you and yours? Unless of course, it was just a tax on the poor and middle class.....all along. Which, I've said from the beginning.

idiotic, again. Walmart is actually pretty stingy with benefits compared to most corporations, and works like the devil to keep folks in 'part time' status for lower levels of corporate compensation. You once again, demonstrate exactly ZERO knowledge of what you are babbling about. Not one iota of that article had any bearing on the design, the details or the reality of the ACA. Essentially, as usual, you are whining about something that you are scared of being a success. Too freaking bad about that.

[Pudfark]

Walmart is actually pretty stingy with benefits compared to most corporations, and works like the devil to keep folks in 'part time' status for lower levels of corporate compensation.

I actually agree with that part...and yet, it's still better than ObamaCare and 3-4 times cheaper. Seems like yer telling folks...that Walmart has more employees to put into a group...than Obama had citizens to do the same. Shame on you, it ain't true.

Perhaps, if you're capable...you could find something, reputable, to cut n paste...to refute?
I don't see where you can....I say that, because...I've already looked. Nobody, on yer side, is throwing out anything...at all, that's verifiable. However, come Friday, that may change....

[callmeslick]

still don't grasp that you cannot compare employer policies with individual policies, I see, Pud.

[Pudfark]

still don't grasp that you cannot compare employer policies with individual policies, I see, Pud.

Sure you can, the bigger the group, the bigger the discount. If you can't agree with that....then why was ObamaCare "sold" that way...

Further, you can compare all day, see the differences, add in the additional premium (small) and have a comparable plan at little additional cost. That's how ObamaCare was presented/marketed....with one exception....they raked to much off the top....while hiding behind the biggest tax increase associated with the ObamaCare plan....in the history of this country.

On top of all that...they still managed to feck it up. Greedy, Stupid and Lazy is what I'd call it.
You seem to call it the "path to the White House". Makes me laugh.

[callmeslick]

still don't grasp that you cannot compare employer policies with individual policies, I see, Pud.

Sure you can, the bigger the group, the bigger the discount. If you can't agree with that....then why was ObamaCare "sold" that way...

ACA is about INDIVIDUAL policies, at the exchange level. Group policies were not, to any degree, changed, except at the whim of the employers or the insurance companies. You CANNOT compare the two.
Back to REAL comparisons. Three years ago, I couldn't have bought a policy for my wife and I AT ALL(her pre-existings). Now I can. Two years ago, the policy I have would have cost me over $1700 per month, if I could even get it written for me. Now, it costs $1000. That is a REAL WORLD comparison. A few million of your fellow citizens will have similar stories to tell their friends and neighbors. In a matter of a few years, NO ONE would vote to scrap this act, except to replace it with something even more robust.

[Pudfark]

Sheesh... You can compare anything you want... Hell, you have here for many years.

It's like this...ya hold'em side by side and point out the differences. Note the differences, make a few subtle changes and Voila'....now they damn near the same. You're sayin' it can't be done. I'm sayin' it can and should have been.

WTF...you sit here and argue "single payer"...most would of thought, you'd jump on my idea...

So, really which is it?

Old Pudfark sez: " Seems like ya been...bent over the tailgate? "

[callmeslick]

drinking kinda early, Pud?.......no, there is no comparison that is in any way valid. Sorry. Sad that Res got it, immediately, and someone who lived his whole life in the US system still doesn't grasp an analytical error in the article that was so obvious.

[Pudfark]

You might oughta clean the wax outta yer ears....

Well, it's very obvious...you choose not to "get" what I'm sayin'....not asking you to agree with it, only to grasp the concept. Your inability to do so....dooms yer advocated "single payer" system....which was my indirect point at the beginning...and then my direct point....at the end.

Current system ain't gonna work and ain't working for the majority. You and yours, have still not released any verifiable numbers. Congress is set to bring up/vote on a bill Friday to compel that.
I'm sure, yer looking forward to that... I am.

Conservatively, half the folks, their families included, in this country are connected by one common value...a government check. Treat'em like Walmart employees...insure them the same or let them pay more for better. Seems that concept zoomed right over yer head. Of, course, ya can always imply/say that Walmart has more folks...and it's different.

Come on Slick....if'n ya want to breathe in this country...ya gotta have insurance...it's the law. Them what made that law...can change it....so, at least some folks can have as good an insurance program as the Walmart door greeters...ya think?