For Slick..."Why comparing Walmart to ObamaCare isn't fair"

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For Slick..."Why comparing Walmart to ObamaCare isn't fair"

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If you're an angry loser with lots of free time, what do you do -- besides work at Media Matters, of course? You wage war against stuff that works, like Walmart.

Activist groups love blocking new stores, pretending that that helps communities when really they just hate success and their own miserable failure. It's like spitting on a nice car or rooting against Superman.

Imagine them now as new research shows that Walmart employee health plans are better than ObamaCare. Independent agents compared the two and found Walmart's to be far cheaper -- full coverage is 40 bucks, for a family $160 -- while providing better access to high-quality care than Barack's boondoggle. That's not saying much. A fat man's shadow provides better coverage than ObamaCare.

Will the press care? Please, this is Walmart. If it were the Crips, that'd be different.

Look, I know comparing Walmart to the government isn't fair. One provides, the others divides. It's like comparing an apple to a razor blade.

So, shouldn't activists be happy that a million people have good health care? Not in the punitive anti-capitalist world. Walmart is just a proxy for the evil West which provides goods and services in ways the commies never could. No wonder activists really hate them.

My advice? Go to Walmart, head to aisle 11. That's where you'll find the diapers, you big stupid babies.

A fat man's shadow provides better coverage than ObamaCare.
- Greg Gutfeld


http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/the-five/ ... -isnt-fair

BTW...Gutfeld is one of my favorite folks... :)
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I'll repeat for the last time:

There is no single 'Obamacare' and any one who tries to suggest such is a fool
Walmart price isn't the whole cost, it is the employee cost. The plan costs far more including Walmarts contribution.
Anyone comparing the two is an IDIOT
Pudfark wrote: Mon May 29, 2017 11:15 am I live in Texas....you live in America.
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Oh...so yer sayin' Walmart is picking up 66-90% of the cost of the employee's premium..... :lol:
Not to mention....their deductible is 3-4 times reduced from Obama's....and Walmart is picking that up too.... :lol: :lol:

Where are your facts? I got yer opinions down solid...I'm just not a "believer"...in yer abdominal push...of them...
Really, who can factually support yer opinion? Please don't throw out some "made up" enrollment figures...even yer own, ain't doing that.....anymore.

So...throw some verifiable sources...their pedigrees...and numbers....I would really like to believe you...then again, I won't buy any "land" in Louisiana...without looking at it first. just sayin'

Oh, I'm not trying to be insulting...I really am asking. Cuz, I can't find them...and you know a lot more folks than I do.
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callmeslick wrote:I'll repeat for the last time:

There is no single 'Obamacare' and any one who tries to suggest such is a fool
Walmart price isn't the whole cost, it is the employee cost. The plan costs far more including Walmarts contribution.
Anyone comparing the two is an IDIOT
Yeah.."Eye" Get It. It'd be like comparing a chevy to a "dodge". :roll:

Seems, ya been "driving" a "dodge"...fer years.
With a dirty windshield, no brakes and no reverse.

Which is why? The rest of us have to buy additional auto coverage for under insured and the uninsured, to financially "dodge" the idiots operating a motor vehicle.... Now, it's a law, thanks to idiots and you.

Old Pudfark sez: " America....there's no comparison...to it. "
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WASHINGTON—With the Affordable Care Act now making it possible for a greater number of Americans to purchase medical coverage, the nation looked back this week and fondly recalled a simpler time when its health care system was broken beyond any hope of repair.

Describing a more innocent period in the country’s history—before opponents of the act temporarily shut down the government, and before the disastrous rollout of the new insurance exchanges led to widespread public exasperation—citizens shared with reporters their warm memories of what they called a bygone golden era.

“Back then, if you couldn’t afford health insurance and got really sick, you went bankrupt, plain and simple,” said Dominique Otis, a Modesto, CA mother of three. “They didn’t have this whole mess of lower-cost options, or all these subsidies you might or might not qualify for based on your income. People didn’t have to deal with any of those headaches. They just went ahead and died of preventable causes.”

“Those were the good old days, ya know?” she added with a sigh.

According to nostalgic sources, there was a time when Americans who lost their jobs and the benefits that came with them simply went without insurance, and that was that. During this halcyon age there was reportedly no way anyone who was out of work could afford health care, and if people had a serious preexisting condition, they knew for certain they would never again qualify for decent coverage.

Harkening back to that less complicated past, citizens noted, for example, how parents who had no way to pay for their newborn baby’s much-needed surgery never even bothered getting their hopes up, but simply accepted that their child would never have a first birthday party.

As they spoke with reporters, many Americans reminisced about the comfort they once took in the predictable dysfunction of this status quo.

“When I had esophageal cancer and needed $180,000 worth of treatments not covered by my health plan, I knew immediately I’d lose my house,” said 58-year-old Tobias Czwerda of Braintree, MA, who smiled as he flipped through snapshots of the Christmas he and his family spent in a homeless shelter. “Yes, sir, things were simpler then. You knew in advance that no matter how much you argued with your insurance company, in the end it would always come down to the same two options: pay or die.”

“Call me old-fashioned, but there was something reassuring in that,” he added.

In a Gallup poll conducted this month, 72 percent of respondents agreed that even though the health care system had consistently screwed them over in the old days, at least they had known exactly where they stood. In addition, 65 percent said that while the most expensive illnesses were effectively a death sentence back then, there had been a certain peace of mind in knowing that if you ever got that sick, you would soon be gone and not have to worry about the hospital bills.

Furthermore, 89 percent of Americans confirmed they had taken some small solace in the fact that if they needed money for a life-saving operation, they could always tape a photocopied image of themselves to a collection jar, place it in a local supermarket checkout line, and hope for the best.

“Remember when you couldn’t afford to see a doctor and so you just waited and waited and waited until you absolutely couldn’t wait any longer, and then you went to the emergency room, where they did too little too late and charged you tens of thousands of dollars for it?” Waukesha, WI resident Keith Donaldson said. “I guess those days are gone forever.”
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Reservoir_Dog wrote:
WASHINGTON—With the Affordable Care Act now making it possible for a greater number of Americans to purchase medical coverage, the nation looked back this week and fondly recalled a simpler time when its health care system was broken beyond any hope of repair.

Describing a more innocent period in the country’s history—before opponents of the act temporarily shut down the government, and before the disastrous rollout of the new insurance exchanges led to widespread public exasperation—citizens shared with reporters their warm memories of what they called a bygone golden era.

“Back then, if you couldn’t afford health insurance and got really sick, you went bankrupt, plain and simple,” said Dominique Otis, a Modesto, CA mother of three. “They didn’t have this whole mess of lower-cost options, or all these subsidies you might or might not qualify for based on your income. People didn’t have to deal with any of those headaches. They just went ahead and died of preventable causes.”

“Those were the good old days, ya know?” she added with a sigh.

According to nostalgic sources, there was a time when Americans who lost their jobs and the benefits that came with them simply went without insurance, and that was that. During this halcyon age there was reportedly no way anyone who was out of work could afford health care, and if people had a serious preexisting condition, they knew for certain they would never again qualify for decent coverage.

Harkening back to that less complicated past, citizens noted, for example, how parents who had no way to pay for their newborn baby’s much-needed surgery never even bothered getting their hopes up, but simply accepted that their child would never have a first birthday party.

As they spoke with reporters, many Americans reminisced about the comfort they once took in the predictable dysfunction of this status quo.

“When I had esophageal cancer and needed $180,000 worth of treatments not covered by my health plan, I knew immediately I’d lose my house,” said 58-year-old Tobias Czwerda of Braintree, MA, who smiled as he flipped through snapshots of the Christmas he and his family spent in a homeless shelter. “Yes, sir, things were simpler then. You knew in advance that no matter how much you argued with your insurance company, in the end it would always come down to the same two options: pay or die.”

“Call me old-fashioned, but there was something reassuring in that,” he added.

In a Gallup poll conducted this month, 72 percent of respondents agreed that even though the health care system had consistently screwed them over in the old days, at least they had known exactly where they stood. In addition, 65 percent said that while the most expensive illnesses were effectively a death sentence back then, there had been a certain peace of mind in knowing that if you ever got that sick, you would soon be gone and not have to worry about the hospital bills.

Furthermore, 89 percent of Americans confirmed they had taken some small solace in the fact that if they needed money for a life-saving operation, they could always tape a photocopied image of themselves to a collection jar, place it in a local supermarket checkout line, and hope for the best.

“Remember when you couldn’t afford to see a doctor and so you just waited and waited and waited until you absolutely couldn’t wait any longer, and then you went to the emergency room, where they did too little too late and charged you tens of thousands of dollars for it?” Waukesha, WI resident Keith Donaldson said. “I guess those days are gone forever.”
Sorta negates the rest of it....cuz, if'n ya read a dab, the vast majority? Ain't buying it. Proof of that? No numbers being released as to paid for, legitimate enrolled folks. Bad news is? Later this year, that number in the majority is gonna increase.

Once again, you lib's have dodged the opportunity to present numerical facts. Where's your source, link? Scared to post it?
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go Google the number of people now covered in Oregon, which apparently keeps good records. Despite glitches(they have a state-run exchange), they now have more than 200,000 more people with insurance coverage than they had a year ago.
Pudfark wrote: Mon May 29, 2017 11:15 am I live in Texas....you live in America.
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Why didn't ya post the link? Seems yer shooting from the "hip" again.
How many Medicaid how many paying? It's yer info? Post the link.
That's one state out of 50...yup victory is right around the corner...
Yer example is under whelming and the lack of a link, supports that "feeling".... :roll:
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Im sorry but when Obama has to break out Richard Simmons then its game over :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPiyAdf1IU8
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Fats...ya just tear me up.. :lol:
For a fellow who is from "out of town"...yer "grasp" on the culture here...is beyond admirable.
You put...R_D to shame... :P
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