from Chuck Todd's 'First Look' column today:
"We got our hands on a health-care survey conducted by NBC/WSJ pollsters Peter Hart (D) and Public Opinion Strategies (R) that paints a MUCH MORE nuanced political view of the health-care debate than many might think. The poll shows that the health-care law is still unpopular (34% say they support it, versus 45% who oppose it), and Republicans have the advantage in the political environment (42% prefer a GOP-controlled Congress, 41% want a Democratic-controlled one). But the poll also finds that most of the law’s provisions (insurers can’t reject people because of pre-existing conditions, parents can keep their children on their plans through ages 26) are very popular, although the BIG exception here is the law’s mandates. Indeed, after respondents hear these details of the law, it becomes more popular (39% support it, 41% oppose). And then there’s this finding: Only 28% of respondents believe the law should be totally eliminated; 54% say it should be fixed; and 17% say the law should be kept in place as is. If you wanted to know why many Republicans are beginning to back away from repeal, here’s your answer."
Three days..Three weeks..Three months..
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You...really agree with that? An unsupported opinion piece? From a brand new media source? That doesn't have "Chuck Todd" listed as a contributor?
Try this:
Uninsured shun ObamaCare
The goal of ObamaCare is to cover the uninsured. The effect of ObamaCare so far seems to be un-insuring those already covered and then re-enrolling some of them. A pair of new surveys say that the years-long effort to get Americans without health coverage to sign up for ObamaCare has fallen flat. A study by consulting firm McKinsey & Co. says that of the millions of Americans who have signed up for insurance under ObamaCare, only about a quarter were previously uninsured. Why? A study by the left-leaning Urban Institute says that only one in 10 of those without insurance enrolled as of last month and that nearly a quarter of those eligible to enroll had never heard of the program.
[“That's not a data point that we are really collecting in any sort of systematic way.” – Gary Cohen of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services when asked by insurers how many of the enrollees were previously uninsured, via National Journal]
Self-destruct cycle - The McKinsey study found that the main reason uninsured Americans who knew about the program weren’t signing up was that they believed they could not afford the benefits. This is part of a self-destruct cycle for ObamaCare. The more delays the president enacts in a bid to save his law, the more distorted the insurance marketplace is likely to become. The pressure is growing on Obama delay the looming punishment for those fail to comply by the end of this month. He is so far refusing Democratic pleas for mercy, knowing that such a delay would cause insurance costs to soar even higher as the industry tried to accommodate new, expensive ObamaCare beneficiaries without the policy checks from the million or more healthy, less expensive consumers who actuaries say will sign up to avoid the penalties. If Americans are shunning ObamaCare because it is too expensive now, imagine what will happen if that kind of rate spike come into play.
[Pessimism, fear and anger were the most common emotions voters expressed about ObamaCare in the latest Fox News Poll About 38 percent of voters favored the health law, while 57 percent opposed it. Results here.]
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/03 ... +-+Text%29
Obama says March 31 Obamacare deadline is final
"We are going to enforce the deadline," the president said at a town hall hosted by the Asegúrate campaign, a joint venture with the nonprofit California Endowment and Spanish-language media outlets.
“You have time now to sign up,” Obama insisted. “If everybody waits until the last minute … then in some ways it’s a self-fulfilling prophecy."
The Obama administration announced Wednesday that it would allow insurers to issue until October 2016 health plans that do not meet Obamacare regulations, stoking GOP charges that the Affordable Care Act is fatally flawed.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/president ... le/2545195
Let's, fer starters...call BS on yer post above. Google get's No Hits on it. It's no wonder ya didn't provide a link...that you supposedly/apparently copied and pasted from. So, I'm calling you out on that...prove it. Then we can have a meaningful dialogue..if, in fact, you ever sought one?
You, solely, hold yer self out to be "smarter" than this? Go ahead and take a bigger swing at it...
Take a good look at what I posted above....links and pertinent info sources with names that can be verified...start there.
Try this:
Uninsured shun ObamaCare
The goal of ObamaCare is to cover the uninsured. The effect of ObamaCare so far seems to be un-insuring those already covered and then re-enrolling some of them. A pair of new surveys say that the years-long effort to get Americans without health coverage to sign up for ObamaCare has fallen flat. A study by consulting firm McKinsey & Co. says that of the millions of Americans who have signed up for insurance under ObamaCare, only about a quarter were previously uninsured. Why? A study by the left-leaning Urban Institute says that only one in 10 of those without insurance enrolled as of last month and that nearly a quarter of those eligible to enroll had never heard of the program.
[“That's not a data point that we are really collecting in any sort of systematic way.” – Gary Cohen of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services when asked by insurers how many of the enrollees were previously uninsured, via National Journal]
Self-destruct cycle - The McKinsey study found that the main reason uninsured Americans who knew about the program weren’t signing up was that they believed they could not afford the benefits. This is part of a self-destruct cycle for ObamaCare. The more delays the president enacts in a bid to save his law, the more distorted the insurance marketplace is likely to become. The pressure is growing on Obama delay the looming punishment for those fail to comply by the end of this month. He is so far refusing Democratic pleas for mercy, knowing that such a delay would cause insurance costs to soar even higher as the industry tried to accommodate new, expensive ObamaCare beneficiaries without the policy checks from the million or more healthy, less expensive consumers who actuaries say will sign up to avoid the penalties. If Americans are shunning ObamaCare because it is too expensive now, imagine what will happen if that kind of rate spike come into play.
[Pessimism, fear and anger were the most common emotions voters expressed about ObamaCare in the latest Fox News Poll About 38 percent of voters favored the health law, while 57 percent opposed it. Results here.]
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/03 ... +-+Text%29
Obama says March 31 Obamacare deadline is final
"We are going to enforce the deadline," the president said at a town hall hosted by the Asegúrate campaign, a joint venture with the nonprofit California Endowment and Spanish-language media outlets.
“You have time now to sign up,” Obama insisted. “If everybody waits until the last minute … then in some ways it’s a self-fulfilling prophecy."
The Obama administration announced Wednesday that it would allow insurers to issue until October 2016 health plans that do not meet Obamacare regulations, stoking GOP charges that the Affordable Care Act is fatally flawed.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/president ... le/2545195
Let's, fer starters...call BS on yer post above. Google get's No Hits on it. It's no wonder ya didn't provide a link...that you supposedly/apparently copied and pasted from. So, I'm calling you out on that...prove it. Then we can have a meaningful dialogue..if, in fact, you ever sought one?
You, solely, hold yer self out to be "smarter" than this? Go ahead and take a bigger swing at it...
Take a good look at what I posted above....links and pertinent info sources with names that can be verified...start there.
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Pudfark
Re: Three days..Three weeks..Three months..
Three days..Three weeks..Three months..
ObamaCare in peril? Questionable sign-ups, delays mar launch
Three weeks out from the ObamaCare enrollment deadline, the president's signature health care law is facing ever-increasing challenges which go far beyond the program's troubled exchange websites.
Raising questions whether it's a crippled law that's near impossible to implement along its mandated timetable, key elements of the act continue to unilaterally be pushed off by the administration. Lawmakers are raising concerns about the security of the ObamaCare websites, even as the many "glitches" that blocked would-be enrollees are fixed.
And at the heart of the Affordable Care Act's problems is the question of whether it will do what President Obama said -- cover a large swath of the country's 47 million uninsured.
The numbers the administration is using to tout its progress to that end are coming under the microscope. While officials say 4 million have signed up for private insurance on the exchanges so far -- still short of the unofficial 7 million goal by the end of March -- it's unclear how many of them were previously uninsured.
A new pair of studies suggests not very many, meaning Obama's target audience largely has not been reached.............
The National Journal reported that Gary Cohen, the health official at the helm of the insurance marketplaces who will soon be stepping down, said the administration is not really tracking that.
"That's not a data point that we are really collecting in any sort of systematic way," Cohen reportedly said.
Health agency spokesman Aaron Albright told Fox News on Friday that they are now "looking at a range of data sources" to figure that out................
"When ObamaCare was debated in Congress, we screamed from the rooftops that it just wouldn't work -- that it would be a job killer; that it would absolutely make health care more expensive and less accessible for millions of Americans," Sen John Cornyn, R-Texas, said Friday at the conference. "We were accused of somehow being heartless and misinformed. But now, four years later, our predictions have come true."
The central concern at this stage is whether the insurance industry is seeing enough sign-ups -- insurers were relying on an infusion of young and healthy customers in order to offset the cost of insuring everyone else and complying with other provisions in the law.
Without the proper mix of customers, premiums could rise. Asked about the McKinsey study, America's Health Insurance Plans spokesman Robert Zirkelbach said that what "ultimately matters" is who signs up, not necessarily how many sign up.
Meanwhile, other implementation problems threaten to exacerbate the industry's concerns.
The administration this week announced that it would let people keep plans that would otherwise be out of compliance for another two years. This was an extension of a "fix" Obama made for all those whose policies were canceled, after he was accused of misleading voters in claiming anyone who liked their health plan could keep it.
But that potentially deprives insurers of even more revenue. Insurance industry consultant Robert Laszewski reportedly said this week that insurers are "very worried" now about the sign-ups.
Hanging over all of these implementation problems is the 2014 midterm elections, and a sizeable group of Democrats nervous about the law's more unpopular provisions going into that vote.
Lead among them would be the individual mandate requiring people to buy insurance. In the latest dose of bad news, The Wall Street Journal reported that, according to the Tax Policy Center, the penalty for not buying insurance could be a lot higher than the $95 fine Americans usually hear about.
The House voted Wednesday to delay the tax penalty for one year, with more than two-dozen Democrats supporting the bill.
In another looming confrontation, House Republicans plan to tie the so-called "doc fix" to a decade-long postponement of the mandate. The "doc fix" is a semi-routine patch by Congress to prevent doctors from seeing a massive cut in their Medicare reimbursement rate. The current one runs out at the end of this month.
A spokesman for House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi called the GOP plan a "new low."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/03 ... ar-launch/
"Preparation H" or perhaps?
Some shocking "rebuttal"?
Really Slick...you can't see what's coming?
What was planned? Where this is going?
The only thing..to stall this...temporarily?
Obama changing the law again (something he says he ain't doing for the "little people") or ignoring his law...some more, if not totally.
Old Pudfark sez: " Ya can't fix stupid...though, ya can lie about it/ignore it...until it bites ya on the ass...then whut? "
ObamaCare in peril? Questionable sign-ups, delays mar launch
Three weeks out from the ObamaCare enrollment deadline, the president's signature health care law is facing ever-increasing challenges which go far beyond the program's troubled exchange websites.
Raising questions whether it's a crippled law that's near impossible to implement along its mandated timetable, key elements of the act continue to unilaterally be pushed off by the administration. Lawmakers are raising concerns about the security of the ObamaCare websites, even as the many "glitches" that blocked would-be enrollees are fixed.
And at the heart of the Affordable Care Act's problems is the question of whether it will do what President Obama said -- cover a large swath of the country's 47 million uninsured.
The numbers the administration is using to tout its progress to that end are coming under the microscope. While officials say 4 million have signed up for private insurance on the exchanges so far -- still short of the unofficial 7 million goal by the end of March -- it's unclear how many of them were previously uninsured.
A new pair of studies suggests not very many, meaning Obama's target audience largely has not been reached.............
The National Journal reported that Gary Cohen, the health official at the helm of the insurance marketplaces who will soon be stepping down, said the administration is not really tracking that.
"That's not a data point that we are really collecting in any sort of systematic way," Cohen reportedly said.
Health agency spokesman Aaron Albright told Fox News on Friday that they are now "looking at a range of data sources" to figure that out................
"When ObamaCare was debated in Congress, we screamed from the rooftops that it just wouldn't work -- that it would be a job killer; that it would absolutely make health care more expensive and less accessible for millions of Americans," Sen John Cornyn, R-Texas, said Friday at the conference. "We were accused of somehow being heartless and misinformed. But now, four years later, our predictions have come true."
The central concern at this stage is whether the insurance industry is seeing enough sign-ups -- insurers were relying on an infusion of young and healthy customers in order to offset the cost of insuring everyone else and complying with other provisions in the law.
Without the proper mix of customers, premiums could rise. Asked about the McKinsey study, America's Health Insurance Plans spokesman Robert Zirkelbach said that what "ultimately matters" is who signs up, not necessarily how many sign up.
Meanwhile, other implementation problems threaten to exacerbate the industry's concerns.
The administration this week announced that it would let people keep plans that would otherwise be out of compliance for another two years. This was an extension of a "fix" Obama made for all those whose policies were canceled, after he was accused of misleading voters in claiming anyone who liked their health plan could keep it.
But that potentially deprives insurers of even more revenue. Insurance industry consultant Robert Laszewski reportedly said this week that insurers are "very worried" now about the sign-ups.
Hanging over all of these implementation problems is the 2014 midterm elections, and a sizeable group of Democrats nervous about the law's more unpopular provisions going into that vote.
Lead among them would be the individual mandate requiring people to buy insurance. In the latest dose of bad news, The Wall Street Journal reported that, according to the Tax Policy Center, the penalty for not buying insurance could be a lot higher than the $95 fine Americans usually hear about.
The House voted Wednesday to delay the tax penalty for one year, with more than two-dozen Democrats supporting the bill.
In another looming confrontation, House Republicans plan to tie the so-called "doc fix" to a decade-long postponement of the mandate. The "doc fix" is a semi-routine patch by Congress to prevent doctors from seeing a massive cut in their Medicare reimbursement rate. The current one runs out at the end of this month.
A spokesman for House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi called the GOP plan a "new low."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/03 ... ar-launch/
"Preparation H" or perhaps?
Some shocking "rebuttal"?
Really Slick...you can't see what's coming?
What was planned? Where this is going?
The only thing..to stall this...temporarily?
Obama changing the law again (something he says he ain't doing for the "little people") or ignoring his law...some more, if not totally.
Old Pudfark sez: " Ya can't fix stupid...though, ya can lie about it/ignore it...until it bites ya on the ass...then whut? "
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callmeslick
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as for the rest of the same old tired claptrap, with nifty red highlights around points you've tried to make dozens of times:
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it's gotten old, Pud. Sorry.
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it's gotten old, Pud. Sorry.
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Pudfark
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Here's a pleasant "Feck You" from me....callmeslick wrote:should have read: First Read. You'll find it now.
You find it and present it...here.
That turd don't float...kiss my ass....nicely of course.
I'll say this for the record..."You're not truthful at all."
HH calls ya a "LIAR"...he's right.
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HappyHappy
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Pudfark wrote:That turd don't float...kiss my ass.....
I'll say this for the record..."You're not truthful at all."
HH calls ya a "LIAR"...he's right.
No name calling, just the facts, and truth.
Callmeshit will lie even when the truth is the better story
HH
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callmeslick
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find one example where I've ever posted a verifiable lie(not some error in whether NH is in the 2nd or 4th quartile in population). One.
Oh, and I think I've hit my boredom quota again, so I'll only stop in from time to time to watch the two of you obsess. I have an Australian football season to figure out.
Oh, and I think I've hit my boredom quota again, so I'll only stop in from time to time to watch the two of you obsess. I have an Australian football season to figure out.
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Pudfark
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Indeed, Slick....go watch some football. It's a indelible indicator...of how well, you're holding yer "factual" own here.callmeslick wrote:find one example where I've ever posted a verifiable lie(not some error in whether NH is in the 2nd or 4th quartile in population). One.
Oh, and I think I've hit my boredom quota again, so I'll only stop in from time to time to watch the two of you obsess. I have an Australian football season to figure out.
It's been pointed out numerous times, the lies you've told...been caught at (by me and HH). Your admission of that is the same as your admission to....Australian Football. I, along with others here....don't believe you'll figure out their "football" anymore.....than you have figured out anything here.
For the record...this ain't the first time...you've been run out of this area...
Enjoy yer time off...to be honest...I was getting a little knackered, from wallowing out yer butt hole...everyday.
See ya.
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Pudfark
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NEW YORK MAN OWES $1,800 AFTER HOSPITAL REFUSES TO ACCEPT OBAMACARE PLAN
Donald Webb, a disabled Oswego County, NY man, had his ObamaCare insurance denied by a local hospital and was hit with a bill totaling nearly $1,800 according to a a report from Syracuse, NY CBS affiliate WTVH on Monday...
Dr. Martin Luther King: "I had a dream."
Barrack Obama: "You weren't in it."
Donald Webb, a disabled Oswego County, NY man, had his ObamaCare insurance denied by a local hospital and was hit with a bill totaling nearly $1,800 according to a a report from Syracuse, NY CBS affiliate WTVH on Monday...
Dr. Martin Luther King: "I had a dream."
Barrack Obama: "You weren't in it."