Who has created/saved more Jobs ?

[Pudfark]

Obama or Osama ?

I say Osama...He helped create the TSA, Homeland Security, increased the size of private military contractors, larger re-enlistment bonuses for the military, and the employment of thousands of foreigners...not to mention, the developement and production of hundreds, maybe in the future, thousands of drones and the additional employment of the pilots required to fly them and all of the support folks to maintain them.....Given a minute or two more I could name more.....

Obama created jobs for a few progressive czars...uh, what else? Yeah, Yeah...I have "heard" how he has supposedly saved or created two million jobs....I just ain't "seen" it. Have you? If so, where? When?

Old Pudfark sez: " I sure wish one'm would create a job that TaxPayers didn't have to pay for "

[callmeslick]

why do you hate America so much?

[ruggbutt]

You're the America hater. You don't think the laws of this country should be adhered to.

[Quasar-NL]

You're the America hater. You don't think the laws of this country should be adhered to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QfOVuLI ... re=related

[callmeslick]

You're the America hater. You don't think the laws of this country should be adhered to.

really? Name one about which I ever said that. And, before you start that slow, one-note mind of yours thinking......don't even try to say immigration, as I've been telling your for about 7 years now that we ought to enforce the laws on the books about illegal hiring practices. I'm all for enforcement, just not SELECTIVE enforcement.

[callmeslick]

oh, and Ruggie....you realize that for most of this nation's history, we had NO immigration laws. None. None whatsoever. And, amazingly, the nation survived. Perhaps, since you don't apparently put much stock in enforcing laws against the people putting up the money which attracts immigrants, we ought to just go back to the old ways?

[ruggbutt]

o.you realize that for most of this nation's history, we had NO immigration laws.

And to quote you "times have changed". For instance 10% unemployment with illegals taking american jobs and those pesky terrorists that can easily sneak across the border with a backpack nuke or a dirty bomb.

IMHO we need to put landmines on the border and make it known that if you cross you die. Period. We don't need any more immigrants, unlike how we used to when this country was young.

[callmeslick]

hmmm....just like the outcry when the Irish, Poles, Czechs, Italians....etc, came here.
"We don't need any more". And, just as then, we need them, because someone hires them.
Still, you make a good case, re: security. I can go for your landmine thing, as long as you'd agree
that we should start hanging employers of illegals, and make the responsibility to know fall upon
the employers.

[Pudfark]

I just can't resist this "golden" opportunity......

When the Irish, Poles, Czechs, Italians....etc, came here..."Conservative Folks" in the U.S. were trying to build up a country and the labor and efforts of the "legal" immigrants was needed. It is undeniable, the contributions they made to the growth and direction of this country.

With all of the "Illegal" immigrants coming here with their lack of education, job skills and financial resources...they are a complete drain on the last of the resources available to the citizens in this country....They have no right (legal or otherwise) to be here...let alone compete for jobs, not pay taxes, rob, rape, loot or clog up the emergency rooms at our hospitals.....they, along with "progressives" are the fatal dose to our country's future....

Old Pudfark sez: " Don't deport'em.....export'em....like Obama's ancestors did "

[ruggbutt]

I can go for your landmine thing, as long as you'd agree
that we should start hanging employers of illegals, and make the responsibility to know fall upon
the employers.

That's one thing we can agree on. I now have 5 full time Americans working for me. They're being paid a true living wage and the money stays in this country. 'Merrika, fuck yeah!

BTW, it's going to be illegal here soon to give a ride to an illegal. Police will be able to ask for proof of citizenship. Illegals will be arrested for loitering around the Home Depots. Lotsa good shit going on here in the wild west. That being said, I would have no problem with someone hiring a little brown man with a green card.