Slick's britches at half mast....

[Pudfark]

Seems likely Slick...that $2500.00 ya saved this year?
Can be put towards yer next months premium increase.....

Funny in a non-comical way....that your state has the highest projected, 100% average premium increase
and it' don't effect/affect you? So, you say. Not questioning yer veracity..just sayin' that's pretty Slick.

[callmeslick]

wow, Pud, you really ARE that stupid. The only thing that went up in price to ANYWHERE near those numbers is one small segment(small group policies), which won't even kick in until next year. Given that most of the increase is due to an increase in quality of the base policy and actual demand by small businesses to cover their employees(there was little or no demand in some recent years). That is exactly the segment cited in the article....clearly NOT at any point was it suggested that we, as a whole will see 100% increases(in fact, there are annual rise caps in place on policies like mine). You just run with the ole' imagination once again. Hilarious to drop in more sparsely during fishing season! Keep the conversation with yourownself going.....it makes for a fun read.

[Pudfark]

Thanx fer the link supporting yer "made up" info....
As stated in my previous link...yer rate increases are projected to be the highest in the country.
Keep babbling...........and paying..........more.

Old Pudfark sez: " There's/Their's a difference between facts and fax... "

[callmeslick]

who needs a link?....I read YOUR linked article, and did some follow up research. My info posted was essentially breaking down the numbers in YOUR linked article.
Sheesh!

[Pudfark]

Here's another for ya...........

Survey shows ObamaCare sending premiums rising at fastest clip in decades

A recent survey of 148 insurance brokers shows that ObamaCare is sending premiums rising at the fastest clip in decades.

"For the last, about, five years they've been doing this survey, so this was the largest percentage increase in any quarter since they've been doing (it)," said Scott Gottlieb of the American Enterprise Institute.

"But at 12 percent, 11 percent increase on average across all the states -- that puts it at the upper end of any increase we've seen for decades."

That is the national average in a survey done by Morgan Stanley. But in some states, it found rates are soaring.

"There are specific states with exorbitant increases," Gottlieb said. "Delaware had 100 percent increase, Florida had a 37 percent increase, Pennsylvania 28 percent increase, California had a 53 percent increase in their premiums."

Rates vary widely, often depending on the state and how highly regulated it was to begin with. Analysts, however, say the main reasons for the higher costs are not medical inflation, but rather the requirements of ObamaCare itself.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/04 ... p=HPBucket

Right here is my favorite part of the article/link:

"They're going to see an announcement that next year's premium's going to be 25 percent or maybe 50 percent higher than what they're now paying," says John Goodman of the National Center for Policy Analysis.

John Divito of Flexible Benefit Service Corporation said, "we're reading studies where the rates could be 10 to 30, 40 percent higher. Again, it all depends geographically where these rates are being looked at but definitely an increase in rates."

Scott Gottlieb, a medical doctor as well as an analyst, added, "We've seen insurance premiums go up quite a bit over the period in which ObamaCare started to get implemented."

Insurance executives say the same thing. Marc Bertolini, CEO of Aetna, recently told an earning conference that he anticipates 2014 spikes of 20 to 50 percent, going as high as 100 percent in some markets.

Well Slick...are ya still going to bury yer head in the sand? Or, are ya gonna dig out yer checkbook?
Probably...yer gonna say all those folks above are lying and the link is fer shite....
Sure would be nice to see a verifiable link to yer denial...other'n yer neck poking out yer butt.

Old Pudfark sez: " Supposedly, there's a requirement/tradition that the Captain goes down with the ship....does that include the busboy? "

[callmeslick]

Pud, that last statement is a blantant, scare-story lie from the insurance guy. Premiums have NOT gone up post-ACA at the pace they had for the previous decade. No one is going to see 40% increases because the law prevents that from happening(had you ever bothered to read it). Finally, the thing about Delaware averaging 100% increases is utterly false, as well. Like I've said, you seem to be in an awful hurry to proclaim gloom and doom, but it's all just hot air.
Nothing is going to change, and we'll all get to see what REALLY happens. All that's needed is patience, which I have. You, apparently don't wish to wait, because there exists the likelihood that what you've guessed at is really off.
Three years.

[Pudfark]

I see yer still "draggin yer drawers" on providing supporting data. I'm not surprised.
BTW, since ya didn't fully comprehend what I posted.........there's a helluva a lot more than one person saying it. Perhaps, ya should revisit the link, count the names and note their job descriptions and experience. Then factor in what you alone, are sayin'?

Think of this as a "poker" game.....and.....yer the "sore" loser.....thus far.
Pretty apparent....you've "gone all in".....

[callmeslick]

small print will get you every time:
from a much larger article in MediaMatters:
" Even Fox News' sister organization, Fox Business, pointed out problematic elements of the study, noting that "some states had only one broker respond to the Morgan Stanley survey so the results may not be reliable."

the overall article pointed out how the right-wing nutosphere just went and jumped on the Morgan Stanley survey, which canvassed a grand total of 153 insurance brokers....NATIONWIDE(like, maybe 3 in all of Texas). Meanwhile,the Congressional Budget Office just released a FAR more detailed report showing that average premiums have DROPPED. And, of course, you can't seem to locate that to link, can ya, big guy? I think my home state, on that one, shows pretty much the unchanged or very slight rise in overall premiums as I have reported first-hand......

now, you can pull your drawers up now son, this spanking is over.

[callmeslick]

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB1 ... 91284.html

[Pudfark]

...

Obamacare's Price Tag Just Got Cut By $104 Billion
The White House has announced that 7.5 million people signed up for coverage on the exchange this year, but the CBO still isn't changing its prediction that 6 million people will have insurance through the marketplace in 2014. What explains the discrepancy? Mostly the expectation that not everyone buying coverage right now will keep it all year. Some of the 7.5 million people, for example, will likely get jobs and transition into employer-sponsored plan (something that becomes especially likely as the economy adds jobs). With some of this churn on and off the exchange the CBO thinks that, at any given time, about 6 million people will have a plan they bought on the exchange (Kliff, 4/14).



Since..ya wanna toss out incomplete links...the WSJ...three sentence link was cute.