business as usual....

[callmeslick]

....I'm sure the investigation will be thorough. And, what's the big deal? A little problem with some brakes,
some sticking accelerators, maybe speed control issues....Congress is on the case:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35293626/ns/business-autos/


throw them ALL out of office. ALL of them.

[Pudfark]

Yup....the bribe money is a flowin...

Old Pudfark sez: " Up agin the wall....ya slant eyed mutha's "

[Dawg]

..wtf....

Toyota = millions in terms of raw american income- profits go back to Japan, who cares? The economy is cyclical.
As to the massive campaign against Toyota, someone should tell Obama and his Czars that running toyo out of the country wont help Government Motors sell any more of there cars.
Why no massive campaign on the GM recall?????
GM to recall over 291,000 Saturns

DETROIT (Reuters) - General Motors Corp. (NYSE:GM - news) is recalling 291,652 Saturn L-Series sedans and wagons in the United States because of defective tail lights, U.S. safety regulators said on Friday.

The L-Series cars affected by the recall are from 2000 to 2002 model years, while the wagons are from 2000 to 2004 model years.

blind only works till they come for you-

[callmeslick]

first, Dawg, the Saturn recall is for 8-10 year old vehicles.
Second, given the choice, I'll take a car with no functional tail lights, over a sticking throttle or failing brakes.
Wouldn't you?

[Pudfark]

Here is what is coming to the future....with an absolute certainty.......

Example: The airplane industry...."Cessna"...a new Cessna 172 is approx 300,000.00 bucks....1/3 of the price is for the "product liability" policy that you have to buy when you purchase the plane.....no exceptions...this puts the inevitable lawsuits on a third party and not Cessna....in short, you have to buy this as part of the purchase price so that you and yours can sue yourself (Ins Co.) and not Cessna...somewhere down the road..uh, crash site...

This will happen...the airplane folks did nothing about it...and it happened....and now they/we all pay for it.....Car folks better start"hitching their horses up" to prevent this from occuring...

It is also interesting...on the timing...of these highly publicized recalls....an interesting way to promote domestic auto sales and potentially fine foreign companies.....I think. It has/will lead to more unemployment in this country....The Fed's and Lawyers all make a buck....and the little guy gets the shoe horn in the booty hole....again....

Old Pudfark sez: " anuther example of rectal bleeding for the m-asses "

[callmeslick]

Example: The airplane industry...."Cessna"...a new Cessna 172 is approx 300,000.00 bucks....1/3 of the price is for the "product liability" policy that you have to buy when you purchase the plane.....no exceptions...this puts the inevitable lawsuits on a third party and not Cessna....in short, you have to buy this as part of the purchase price so that you and yours can sue yourself (Ins Co.) and not Cessna...somewhere down the road..uh, crash site...

but, Pud, isn't it in Cessna's best interests, business-wise to do so?? Isn't it common practice for any sale of a new aircraft(I don't know about used)?

I don't see where allowing people the right to sue for product defects is a bad thing. I certainly can see how some lawyers and greedy folks have gotten away with unreasonable demands. That sort of falls upon the juries involved, though, doesn't it? Some southern states will award millions of dollars for damned near anything. Here in PA, medical settlements reflect a tendency of our juries to award mega bucks for lawsuits over medical issues(not quite so much for other stuff). Still, if manufacturers aren't held to some level of responsibility, history has shown a pattern of disregard for safety issues.

[Pudfark]

Slick, to clarify...my point was/is this: it seems, that everbody is going in that direction..and that the car industry will join the airplane industry soon in that respect.....it is a silly and prohibitive expense in the future, to go down that path.....another example, would be ladders.... supposedly, half the cost of a ladder is for the manufacturer's product/liability insurance....however, it could be justified with customers named...Soapy and Slick..

Old Pudfark sez: " Keep yer hundred thousand, sign a waiver instead "

Six years ago, I acquired an almost 60 year old airplane....flew it for about 5 years....I have always contended that it was safer than any new plane...cuz it had sixty years of safe flying behind it.....and sixty years of annual inspections, maintenance history and airframe documentation.....oh, and I got it for one tenth the price of a new plane....with the same speed, fuel burn and a increase in useable weight.....

[Soapy]

it could be justified with customers named...Soapy and Slick.

Hmm, I don't own a Cessna, or a car for that matter, nor shares or options in any company either.

I can only assume that you wanted to use illiteration in your example, rather than logic?

As to liabiltiy insurance/ litigation claims etc. I've never made any insurance claims in my life, litigation or otherwise. If I buy a drink that is too hot, and scald myself, I wouldn't blame the place that sold it to me. As to home insurance, I paid a sum total of £3.50 for a baseball bat, 15 years ago, and I've never been robbed since

You are getting me mixed up with someone who actually gives a fuck about the shite you post, Fud

[Soapy]

Six years ago, I acquired an almost 60 year old airplane....flew it for about 5 years....I have always contended that it was safer than any new plane...cuz it had sixty years of safe flying behind it.....and sixty years of annual inspections, maintenance history and airframe documentation.....oh, and I got it for one tenth the price of a new plane....with the same speed, fuel burn and a increase in useable weight.....

WTF.!!

I'd agree if if was a vintage guitar or something, but a plane!!

I think you might have lost your marbles the last time you did a loop

[callmeslick]

I think you might have lost your marbles the last time you did a loop

I'd say his clarity of thinking is very consistent with what he has shown to date.....





'ol Slick says:"beware of low-flying Pudfarks"