How Long Before You Wake Up, Politicos?

[oFZo]

now, Loco gets a pass from me on this sort of silliness. He's from a different culture, and is a relatively new citizen(immigration, as it should be done), thus shouldn't be expected to get every nuance of how our society has worked, how our court system has worked..

I give up on you, so, you think that I come from a jungle?, like a poor illiterate farmer from a failed African country?

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I doubt it was meant like that. For example: I'm from a Western European country and culture is very different from the US so I'm not expected to get every nuance of how their society works...

[callmeslick]

thanks for getting my point, Ofzo. I don't expect Loco to have inspected a century of legal precedent, or
to have grown up in US culture. I never said he grew up in a jungle, merely a different culture with different expectataions of the legal system and due process.

[callmeslick]

Slick...yer so full of shit...yer ass sucks buttermilk.....Where and How do you think the cocksuckers get the money to buy the dope.?

can you read? I stated that if LEGALIZED it removes secondary violence and crime. See the many nations that handle drug abuse that way. Yeesh.

[callmeslick]

Wrong. Never seen any of the shows on cable called Intervention, eh?

actually, that is one of the very few shows on TV that I watch regularly. It's a great, great series. At any rate, you are correct in noting that drug/alcohol abuse does affect those around the user, in many cases. Actually, one thing learned from "Intervention" is that those surrounding the user do no one any good by allowing themselves to be involved in the process. My point, in this whole matter is this: right now, we are locking up people, chasing down dealers and suffering massive violence due to the criminalization of drugs
(you make a keen insight into Prohibition and the growth of the Mafia, although that organization existed long before that time). We should decriminalize, make the stuff legally available, under controlled circumstances, and then spend about 1/5 of the money we currently piss away on cops, courts and jails for funding extensive rehab programs. The result would be huge decreases in street violence, less long-term cost to society to deal with users and the freedom for law enforcement to deal with the truly bad folks loose out there.

[callmeslick]

I give up on you, so, you think that I come from a jungle?, like a poor illiterate farmer from a failed African country?

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whoa, bunky!! I didn't infer anything of the sort. It's just that you DO come from a different culture, in Peru,
and sometimes don't show an understanding of the processes, nor the tendency in the US to bend over backwards to preserve individual rights. You are correct, we do seemingly do more for the rights of the accused, or even blatantly guilty, than for the law-abiding. However, that is precisely how our system was set up, and that fact has been re-established by dozens of court rulings dating back over the past two centuries. My comment you quoted was meant to infer that this whole thing might easily seem strange to one who grew up with a different style of law enforcement or justice system. Peru, I have no doubt, is not backward......just different. No insult whatsoever intended. For the record, I view you as an individual who seemingly(based on CWOS,Pub reading) worked like the devil to get here, wants to be an American, did everything on the up and up, and one who I have great respect for. And that, sir, is as nice as I plan to be publicly on aCWOS.

[ruggbutt]

(you make a keen insight into Prohibition and the growth of the Mafia, although that organization existed long before that time).

But they weren't nearly as powerful as when Prohibition started. Because just like the drug wars of today there was shitloads of money at stake.

We should decriminalize, make the stuff legally available, under controlled circumstances, and then spend about 1/5 of the money we currently piss away on cops, courts and jails for funding extensive rehab programs. The result would be huge decreases in street violence, less long-term cost to society to deal with users and the freedom for law enforcement to deal with the truly bad folks loose out there.

Yep.

[Pudfark]

Old Pudfark sez: " ooopsies, wrong thread "

[Pudfark]

Slick...yer so full of shit...yer ass sucks buttermilk.....Where and How do you think the cocksuckers get the money to buy the dope.?

can you read? I stated that if LEGALIZED it removes secondary violence and crime. See the many nations that handle drug abuse that way. Yeesh.

Perhaps, I should have said sour buttermilk.....it absolutely does not remove secondary violence and crime....It is the principal reason for it in this country.....Druggies don't work, they steal and sometimes, they kill...they even kill their own families for drugs....I've seen it and dealt with it....not just made the report and moved on....Perhaps, you should consider using "IMHO" before writing such drivel and holding it up in light...as a fact.

Old Pudfark sez: " some folks is like mules...ya gotta use a 2x4...IMHO "

[callmeslick]

then, Pudfark, how come it works well elsewhere?? Maybe spending the money on rehab is the clue?

[Pudfark]

Slick, what is it about spending other folks money, that you like...."help a druggie out, legalize drugs and free rehab"...nothing like granting folks permission to screw up their lives...and everybody elses.....why not do away with all laws, ya know, count/rely on the goodness of man....utopia?

Old Pudfark sez: " Utopia, a drug induced state of blissful stupidity "