Here's a list of Bernie Sanders' $19.6 trillion in tax hikes
"Sanders is proposing $19.6 trillion in new taxes over a decade, according to an analysis by the Washington Examiner, of which $14 trillion would come from his healthcare plan alone. To put that in perspective, the Congressional Budget Office projects that federal revenues over the next 10 years will be a total of $41.6 trillion, meaning that Sanders would raise taxes by 47 percent over current levels."
I'm going to go over this simple math just once, Pud. We currently pay(taxes, insurances, out of pocket) about 2 trillion dollars per year for health related expenditures. Thus, Bernie's taxation for Universal Health care SAVES THE NATION $6 trillion dollars over a decade. The other taxes will be paid off by slimming the military, in part, but the top 6 % of the earners will be payiing more. I have no problem with that, and I'm one of them.
If you don't get the benefit here, you never will.
Pudfark wrote: Mon May 29, 2017 11:15 am
I live in Texas....you live in America.
Team Clinton Attacks Sanders as ‘Socialist Wackadoodle’
Btw...Slick, nice of you to "out yerself" as the communist who's been masquerading as a democrat all these years... I fondly remember, over the last six + years, you denying it and lecturing against it.
bullshit. Sanders is no more a communist than Ronald Reagan. It is a humorous sign of desperation that Hillary is trying that scare tactic. Bernie has, I suspect, fended that one off more than once. Here's what Hillary, and the GOP fear from Sanders:
1. a campaign strictly focused on economics and how that impacts EVERYTHING, including foreign policy
2. a crusty old fella that no one is going to call an 'insider', and who can debate with anyone
3. a guy who can sell, finally, to the working folks of the US, black, white, brown, whatever, that the ones who have been out to get them aren't
conservatives or liberals, but the upper financial classes, who have hosed them for at least 30 years. That will destroy the GOP scare tactic myth.
4. someone willing to point out that there IS a way to get medical costs lower by transferring from a hodge-podge of fees, premiums, writeoffs
and subsidies to a straight-up Medicare for all, paid on a sliding scale via taxes. As I pointed out, the savings potential for most citizens is huge.
5. a campaign of issues and intelligence to contrast with bluster and scare tactics. Positive campaigns work every time. Ask Reagan about that.
Pudfark wrote: Mon May 29, 2017 11:15 am
I live in Texas....you live in America.
callmeslick wrote:bullshit. Sanders is no more a communist than Ronald Reagan. It is a humorous sign of desperation that Hillary is trying that scare tactic. Bernie has, I suspect, fended that one off more than once. Here's what Hillary, and the GOP fear from Sanders:
1. a campaign strictly focused on economics and how that impacts EVERYTHING, including foreign policy
2. a crusty old fella that no one is going to call an 'insider', and who can debate with anyone
3. a guy who can sell, finally, to the working folks of the US, black, white, brown, whatever, that the ones who have been out to get them aren't
conservatives or liberals, but the upper financial classes, who have hosed them for at least 30 years. That will destroy the GOP scare tactic myth.
4. someone willing to point out that there IS a way to get medical costs lower by transferring from a hodge-podge of fees, premiums, writeoffs
and subsidies to a straight-up Medicare for all, paid on a sliding scale via taxes. As I pointed out, the savings potential for most citizens is huge.
5. a campaign of issues and intelligence to contrast with bluster and scare tactics. Positive campaigns work every time. Ask Reagan about that.
Really sounds like yer scared and selling.....to the wrong market. Just sayin' yer stock here is way,way down. Get out while ya can?
would I have preferred Joe, simply because he could present the long-term nature of the transition we need to make a bit better than Bernie? You betcha. Still, I cut the man a check because he seems to generate true passion, something Hillary fails miserably at. She could win the general as a boring throwback to the Bill Clinton years, but nonetheless, she is too 'safe' acting for me.
Pudfark wrote: Mon May 29, 2017 11:15 am
I live in Texas....you live in America.
Team Clinton Attacks Sanders as ‘Socialist Wackadoodle’ 
I fondly remember, over the last six + years, you denying it and lecturing against it.