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Daiichidoku
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G8/G20

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we have had the priviledge and honour of hosting not only a G20, but also G8 coference here in ontario/toronto, back-to-back

the cost is approx (IIRC) TEN times any previous conference in terms of security alone

useless excercise that cost us lots of dough, and completely clusterfucked our largest city with a huge "security zone", many businesses were choked off from most of thier client base

its so stupid, even for "Government du Canada" (gov. DO canada!), that its almost what it must be like living in USA in some ways (no wonder you guys are so pissed! :P)

heres a copy n paste story about a reporter hassled...

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/1006 ... 0_reporter

By Terry Pedwell, The Canadian Press


HUNTSVILLE, Ont. - There's security, and then there's G8 security _ complete with hundreds of police officers seemingly bored out of their minds.


"Excuse me, sir, can you open the trunk of your car?" one young officer asked as he motioned for me to pull over Thursday evening.


Alarm bells went off in my head as I was about to enter the "interdiction zone," dreaded by the poor residents living near the site of Canada's G8 summit. Living inside the zone has meant a five minute drive home from downtown Huntsville could easily take half an hour or more.


As a journalist assigned to cover the G8 in Huntsville, I had been here twice before on this sunny day, showing my identification and a letter issued to me that would allow me into the zone. Both times, no problems.


This time, however, the officer took exception to my Parliament Hill badge, which I wear every day while covering politics in Ottawa and which clearly identifies me as a reporter.


After weaving my way through the s-shaped zig-zag checkpoint area, I pulled over to an area reserved only for those who might soon be ejected.


Before I opened the trunk of my car, there were two officers scanning my vehicle from the outside.


Once the lid was opened, and the contents of the trunk revealed, uniformed police seemed to come out of every corner.


Two more police officers. Then four more. Three taking notes. Then another.


Two more still began to rifle their way through the entire car, looking curiously at my half-eaten bagel and the bottle of wine I bought as a thank you gesture to my friend and Huntsville resident for letting me stay at his place for a couple of nights.


While one stood guard over me, presumably for my own safety, officers from the Ontario Provincial Police crime unit descended on the vehicle.


Then, the G8 security task force sent in their people. More uniforms took notes.


"Of course, we are very curious about why you are carrying body armour and a gas mask in your car," said a female officer who asked not to be identified in the media. In fact, no one could be identified. For security reasons, of course.


"You understand."


All standard equipment issued by my employer for covering demonstrations that could get out of hand, I assured them.


Seems my assurances weren't good enough.


"What is your supervisor's name?" one officer asked.

"We'll need to speak with him," said another.

They called Scott White, editor-in-chief of The Canadian Press, to confirm that our reporters are issued safety equipment like gas masks and vests. But that apparently wasn't enough to get me through.

Soon, a helicopter was hovering overhead.

Then came the bomb-sniffing dogs.

I was still being detained, nearly two hours after being pulled over. And I was growing only slightly aggravated by the lengths to which they were going to interrogate a reporter.

I saw a story. So I asked that I be allowed to videotape my interrogators.

"You can't do that," said one moustached officer.

"We have protocols, and you wouldn't want to put us in danger, now would you?"

Soon I was moved behind a large metal mesh fence, again "for your own security."

More time passed, and as the sun was going down, the air was becoming chilly.

Finally, I was approached by an officer and given a way out.

"Here's the deal," the female officer said.

"You can videotape the bomb-sniffing dog, and we will have to keep you here while we take it up the chain of command," she explained.

"Or you can leave the video recorder off and we can let you go in a few minutes."

Now I was getting angry. Was I being blackmailed?

I called White again to ask him if I should keep trying to video the search or, as the officer said, take the deal.

"Never mind, just get out of there," was the boss's reply.

Maybe it was that phone call that did it. Maybe they had second thoughts about press freedom in Canada. Whatever it was, the tune had suddenly changed, and I was allowed to videotape - but only the bomb-sniffing dog.

And I could leave, and head to my friend's place for the night - no strings attached.

As I was getting into the car to drive away, a couple of officers chuckled, the others finally stopped taking notes.

And the female officer thanked me for my patience.

"Thanks," she said.

"It was a good lesson for us. Now we know that reporters sometimes carry protective equipment," she went on.

"Good to know for the next time."

Then another car was pulled over as I was given back my identification.

"Hey, this guy says he's a reporter from the Ukraine," I heard the officer say.

I got in the car, turned it on, and drove away as fast as I was legally allowed.
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Re: G8/G20

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oh yeah, overall cost to host both summits:

$1.2 BILLION!!! :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Re: G8/G20

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even more to make me seethe lol

sneaky fuckin bastards




Extra police powers to arrest people during the G20 summit, secretly granted earlier this month, had critics likening Ontario to a "tin-pot dictatorship" Friday.


A regulation allowing police to stop and search anyone coming within five metres of the summit site's security fence — and arrest them if they fail to show identification — was passed June 2 by a committee of cabinet.


Still, the new rules only came to light after a 31-year-old man was arrested Thursday and detained for five hours.


The law, which includes penalties of up to two months in jail and a $500 fine, went into effect on Monday. It expires next Monday, after the G20 wraps up in Toronto.


The update to the decades-old Ontario Public Works Protection Act, which allows police to search people entering public buildings such as a court house, was passed the same as most regulations, said Community Safety Minister Rick Bartolucci.


"There was nothing secret," insisted Bartolucci. "The process that normally happens with regulations was followed."


Bartolucci said it was up to Toronto police to explain why they didn't make the provisions of the new regulation public.


However, the opposition parties were fuming at the government's move to give police more powers without holding a debate, even though the legislature was sitting when the law was changed.


And people strolling by the fence Friday were shocked.


"I think it's really a violation of our human rights," said government worker Lana Carillo, 31, who angrily predicted people will be "up in arms about it."


Louise Kelly, 72, said most people are just curious about the fence and the G20 security area and should have been warned not to go within five metres of it.


"I'm very surprised that we weren't informed about it beforehand," said Kelly.


"It's not right just to act without letting us know. It is against our rights."


The Canadian Civil Liberties Association called the regulation dangerous. Giving police the extra powers for the G20 summit was an "inappropriate use" of the law to protect public buildings, it said.


"This was done in secret," said spokeswoman Nathalie Des Rosiers. "It was not done in a way that could be challenged in court."


Toronto police Chief Bill Blair, who requested the change to label a large section of downtown Toronto as a public work under the law, said police were not given sweeping new powers.


"We do not want to be in a situation, and we’re not seeking, extraordinary powers to arrest our citizens," said Blair.

"We are only seeking a clear authority to enable us to maintain a secure perimeter."

Premier Dalton McGuinty passed the law in secret and then kept it secret, creating a situation in which people don't know if they're breaking the law, said NDP justice critic Peter Kormos.

"Secret laws that result in people's arrest and detention, like this one, are the hallmarks of tin-pot dictatorships," he said.

The Progressive Conservatives accused McGuinty of ignoring the legislature to meet a special request from police.

"This was worth a debate," said Opposition critic Garfield Dunlop.

"It's not a dictatorship here, people have a right to have an opinion on this."

John Segsworth, 59, called it "disgraceful" as he briskly walked near the security fence.

But others, such as Mark Beharry, 35, said the new rule is just part of overall G20 security, although he said advance notice would have been appreciated.

"I guess if you're here you should probably know that the security forces are out and that's probably something you can expect," said Beharry. "But I'm glad it's only until Monday."

A Facebook group created after the law became public compared it to Canada's War Measures Act and said it "seriously curtails our rights and freedoms."

People also took to Twitter to talk about the regulations, calling it "unbelievable."
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Re: G8/G20

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and this time i could only laugh

""If you find yourself in a crowd that has turned violent...you need to remove yourself from the area and tell a police officer," said Toronto Police Const. Wendy Drummond."

:lol: :lol:



Along with hundreds of international delegates, thousands of protesters are expected to descend on Toronto for the G20 summit this weekend.


While the Toronto Police Services and the Integrated Security Unit are hoping for peaceful events, they are prepared for more serious confrontations.


They also have suggestions for people who want to have their voices heard, but don't want to get arrested in the process.


"If you find yourself in a crowd that has turned violent...you need to remove yourself from the area and tell a police officer," said Toronto Police Const. Wendy Drummond.


When officers go into a violent crowd they won't be able to tell if you are part of the violence or just caught in the middle.


"If you are committing a criminal offence, you will be dealt with like anyone else committing a criminal offence," said RCMP spokeswoman Julie Morel.


Depending on the act, getting caught in the middle could mean major consequences. This is despite rumours that detained protesters may not be booked in a traditional jail.


Toronto police have obtained a former film studio on Eastern Avenue to house a multitude of different people, said Drummond.


She said there is a plan in place to deal with more people in custody and this plan includes more judges, food, doctors and space.


A leaked e-mail earlier indicated summit organizers were offering doctors $120 per hour to treat injured protesters after they are detained. Doctors will be working at the Eastern Avenue facility.


Drummond wouldn't say if the facility would be used as a jail. She did say if protesters are caught being violent or vandalizing property "they will be processed as they normally would."


Not only will police be on site to protect delegates, they will also be protecting peaceful protesters from possible violent ones.


"We will work with them to ensure their safety," said Drummond. "If things turn violent, if we have to take action, some protesters will be limiting others' ability to have their voices heard in a peaceful manner."


Morel also encourages people to protest in a peaceful manner and ensure people won't be arrested for protesting.


But if protesters cause trouble, they could face mischief charges under the Criminal Code depending on the incident.


"We don't want people to be caught in the middle," said Drummond. "If you are caught in a group and the atmosphere is changing, I suggest getting out of there."
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Re: G8/G20

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So the seven or so police uniforms stolen from dry cleaners a few weeks ago have they made an appearnce yet?
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