Freedom of speech cut off by the Obama adminsitration

[ruggbutt]

NJ Barry!!! Your LE agency is finally waging war against the citizens. And people aren't going to put up with it much longer............

http://www.neowin.net/news/70000-bloget ... ifications

[callmeslick]

yup, Obama at his most insidious.

[ruggbutt]

If Bush would have done this you'd be all over it. Instead, you have your nose buried so far up the black man's ass that you don't even see what's really going on in this country.

[Pudfark]

yup, Obama at his most insidious.

Well, if it had been the Huffington Post or Salon.com....ya mighta got a rise outa Slick...however, as long as the Obama bought media is still "cliqueing along"....all is well...

[callmeslick]

If Bush would have done this you'd be all over it. Instead, you have your nose buried so far up the black man's ass that you don't even see what's really going on in this country.

this could be a continuation of Bush policies. And, yes, I have a serious issue with the administration doing that. However, let's look at the whole text of the link you are ranting about, shall we?

"In a mysterious series of events, the Wordpress blog platform Blogetry, used by approximately 70,000 bloggers around the world, shut down with little warning and no explanation, according to ReadWriteWeb. On a BurstNet discussion board, the owner of Blogetry details the events of the last few days. BurstNet, the web hosting company who owned the server that Blogetry resided on, sent the owner of Blogetry an email informing him that “due to the history of abuse and ongoing abuse on this 'bn.***********' server...We have opted to terminate this server, effective immediately.” After submitting a support request, and waiting over 24 hours for a response, BurstNet responded,

“Bn.xx*********** was terminated by request of law enforcement officials, due to material hosted on the server. We are limited as to the details we can provide to you, but note that this was a critical matter and the only available option to us was to immediately deactivate the server.”

This is very different than a regular Cease and Desist request typically issued by copyright holders who find stolen material on hosted blogs. Blogetry claims that they deal with those requests all the time, and that they deal with those issues usually within 24 hours. In this case, no warning was given, the law enforcement agency responsible for the takedown was not identified, and no reason for the takedown was forthcoming.

BurstNet credited Blogetry’s account for services not rendered and declined to comment on any further request for information. They are not giving access to Blogetry to recover important personal information, nor will they identify, after repeated attempts at communication, the nature of the law enforcement agency responsible. According to BurstNet,

“Please note that this was not a typical case, in which suspension and notification would be the norm. This was a critical matter brought to our attention by law enforcement officials. We had to immediately remove the server.”

Until the issue is resolved, 70,000 people have lost access to their content, and nobody knows why.

Update: According to Cnet, the FBI was behind the takedown of Blogotry, but only indirectly. According to CTO Joe Marr, BurstNet was informed by the FBI on July 9 that links to al-Qaeda materials were found on a blog hosted by Blogotry. The FBI did not, however, order a takedown of the site. That was a mistaken explanation given by an employee of BurstNet. Burstnet was the entity responsible for the takedown; the FBI's communications with sites web hosts like BurstNet usually only involve issuing warrants for information about users or content. However, the FBI does allow the web host to voluntarily shut down the sites involved in such investigation for suspicious or malicious content, including child pornography and terrorism. The BurstNet employee that was dealing with the FBI's request about Blogotry erred in assuming that the Bureau would want the server itself, not just the information requested for investigation. However, according to Marr, the mistake is inconsequential; Service was cut off because hosting bomb-making instructions and "hit lists" are very much against BurstNet's Terms of Service. "


the red part clearly shows that the Government had little, if anything to do with the entire matter, beyond inquiry into possibly illegal activity. I have no problem with that, do you?

the blue part explains exactly who shut the server down and why. Once again, isn't it their right, as server host entity?

once again, as my signature quote states, maybe it's time to check the ideology and start using your abilities to read and digest real facts, not hyperbole and lies.

[callmeslick]

whoa, did this thread go quiet. Sorting out the real truth zaps all the fun out of it, huh?

[HappyHappy]

Callmesick, You and the truth have never been partners.

HH

[callmeslick]

Callmesick, You and the truth have never been partners.

HH

you, and functional brain cells have never been partners. I reprinted the body of the article.
What is not the truth? Is CNET a government front? Can you even read?

[Pudfark]

If Bush would have done this you'd be all over it. Instead, you have your nose buried so far up the black man's ass that you don't even see what's really going on in this country.

this could be a continuation of Bush policies. And, yes, I have a serious issue with the administration doing that. However, let's look at the whole text of the link you are ranting about, shall we?

"In a mysterious series of events, the Wordpress blog platform Blogetry, used by approximately 70,000 bloggers around the world, shut down with little warning and no explanation, according to ReadWriteWeb. On a BurstNet discussion board, the owner of Blogetry details the events of the last few days. BurstNet, the web hosting company who owned the server that Blogetry resided on, sent the owner of Blogetry an email informing him that “due to the history of abuse and ongoing abuse on this 'bn.***********' server...We have opted to terminate this server, effective immediately.” After submitting a support request, and waiting over 24 hours for a response, BurstNet responded,

“Bn.xx*********** was terminated by request of law enforcement officials, due to material hosted on the server. We are limited as to the details we can provide to you, but note that this was a critical matter and the only available option to us was to immediately deactivate the server.”

This is very different than a regular Cease and Desist request typically issued by copyright holders who find stolen material on hosted blogs. Blogetry claims that they deal with those requests all the time, and that they deal with those issues usually within 24 hours. In this case, no warning was given, the law enforcement agency responsible for the takedown was not identified, and no reason for the takedown was forthcoming.

BurstNet credited Blogetry’s account for services not rendered and declined to comment on any further request for information. They are not giving access to Blogetry to recover important personal information, nor will they identify, after repeated attempts at communication, the nature of the law enforcement agency responsible. According to BurstNet,

“Please note that this was not a typical case, in which suspension and notification would be the norm. This was a critical matter brought to our attention by law enforcement officials. We had to immediately remove the server.”

Until the issue is resolved, 70,000 people have lost access to their content, and nobody knows why.

Update: According to Cnet, the FBI was behind the takedown of Blogotry, but only indirectly. According to CTO Joe Marr, BurstNet was informed by the FBI on July 9 that links to al-Qaeda materials were found on a blog hosted by Blogotry. The FBI did not, however, order a takedown of the site. That was a mistaken explanation given by an employee of BurstNet. Burstnet was the entity responsible for the takedown; the FBI's communications with sites web hosts like BurstNet usually only involve issuing warrants for information about users or content. However, the FBI does allow the web host to voluntarily shut down the sites involved in such investigation for suspicious or malicious content, including child pornography and terrorism. The BurstNet employee that was dealing with the FBI's request about Blogotry erred in assuming that the Bureau would want the server itself, not just the information requested for investigation. However, according to Marr, the mistake is inconsequential; Service was cut off because hosting bomb-making instructions and "hit lists" are very much against BurstNet's Terms of Service. "


the red part clearly shows that the Government had little, if anything to do with the entire matter, beyond inquiry into possibly illegal activity. I have no problem with that, do you?

the blue part explains exactly who shut the server down and why. Once again, isn't it their right, as server host entity?

once again, as my signature quote states, maybe it's time to check the ideology and start using your abilities to read and digest real facts, not hyperbole and lies.

Let's see here...hmmm....one or two individual bloggers "may have" written something that they shouldn't have....hmmm....maybe they did? What, might could be the reason, that they shut the other 69,998 folks off? Hmmm...what could it be? Hmmm, maybe, they were threatened? Hmmm, by who? Or, maybe, BurstNet decided to voluntarily fuck themselves out of piles of revenue....

Sure, forget your common sense and be sure to check your ideology....I'm sure you will figure it out.....wasn't hard for me.....

Old Pudfark sez: " Reminds me of the old days when I used to run felony arrest warrants at 3am...You knocked on the door, spoke to the folks inside, showed'em the warrant, and took a look for the suspect...most of the time the suspect wasn't there...So, then you told the owner of the house, I'll be back, I ain't gonna knock and it won't be pretty, ya better tell homeboy to turn himself in....and quite a few times homeboy turned himself in....and when he didn't....well, I came back, stomped the door down at 3am, went through the home like a tornado and if I found him, I arrested him...If I didn't? I kept coming back and doing the same thing....until, he turned himself in or I got him......Oh, and by the way, none of what I did or would do was written on the warrant....and I had the authority by law to do it. Believe what you will about "BurstNet"....I know different...."

[callmeslick]

I think a thorough reading, Pud, would have shown you that they didn't cut off 'piles' of revenue. The source cut off was pretty small-potatoes.
Once again, do you all NOT wish the FBI to investigate al-Qaeda links on websites?