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Re: Wrong Court Ruled on AZ Immigration Law!!

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 5:58 pm
by ruggbutt
Daiichidoku wrote: AZ also cannot have any Troops, or an Army, although they are allowed to keep HG and state militia, but only under federal oversight
Our Governor can muster troops to combat a border problem. Period.

Re: Wrong Court Ruled on AZ Immigration Law!!

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:13 pm
by callmeslick
with regards to National Guard, Ruggie is correct.

Re: Wrong Court Ruled on AZ Immigration Law!!

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 8:18 pm
by Wullie
callmeslick wrote:with regards to National Guard, Ruggie is correct.
Dayumm, I bet that hurt when you posted that.

+1

Re: Wrong Court Ruled on AZ Immigration Law!!

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 8:22 pm
by callmeslick
not really, Wullie. You see, I have some respect for Ruggie. You, on the other hand, seem to operate in the slow lane, doing your level best to propel the US toward 2nd class nation status. Recent breakdown, published in Newsweek(and others) has the US down to 11th in overall quality of life. Keep supporting stupidity as a national objective and we'll make it down to 40th in no time.

Re: Wrong Court Ruled on AZ Immigration Law!!

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 8:36 pm
by Wullie
Your view is the ONLY correct view eh?

The rest of us are stupid dolts only here for your amusement I suppose.

I used to have some respect for you but this weekend has diminished that quite a bit.

I'm beginning to actually believe that you are nothing more than an arrogant dickhead that when cornered resorts to name calling. Until this weekend I did my best to not resort to your particular modus operandi, but after two or three good shots, I decided try it your way.

Keep wandering around with your head up Barry's ass and your eyes on his prize. It'll be a sad day when after all those of you with your free thinking liberal agenda run out of our money to give away for your causes and the monster that you've created and bought into takes your toys too.

Aprenda hablar a Mexicano, cabeza de pito

Re: Wrong Court Ruled on AZ Immigration Law!!

Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:21 pm
by Daiichidoku
ruggbutt wrote:
Daiichidoku wrote: AZ also cannot have any Troops, or an Army, although they are allowed to keep HG and state militia, but only under federal oversight
Our Governor can muster troops to combat a border problem. Period.

if you refer to NG or state militia (as you quoted me, my spelling HG for NG notwithstanding), being mustered, then why quote it like i said it wasnt so?

if you aver that AZ gov can indeed muster regular troops to form a "state army", outside of NG/SM, then by all means, show the source for this please

Re: Wrong Court Ruled on AZ Immigration Law!!

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:07 am
by ruggbutt
The Guard is a "state army".

Re: Wrong Court Ruled on AZ Immigration Law!!

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:38 pm
by Daiichidoku
so the AZ gov can suddenly swell the ranks of the AZNG without restriction and the fed has no say in the matter?

if so, source please :)

Re: Wrong Court Ruled on AZ Immigration Law!!

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:57 pm
by ruggbutt
It's not so much the governor "swelling" the ranks as it is people joining the Guard in Arizona. Typically the Guard are part time soldiers. But with the military recruiting as much as it is I don't see why someone who is qualified to join the military can't go into the Guard in AZ.

Re: Wrong Court Ruled on AZ Immigration Law!!

Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:44 pm
by Daiichidoku
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_G ... ted_States

the NG does what governor tells it to do, but the Fed is responsible for the force itself, and of course can preempt its use for federal (war) purposes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Defense_Forces

SDF (Macross!!!!!!!!! :D) on the other hand, sure, AZ state residents can all arm up and roll if accepted

so you just need to get an AZ SDF organised...again...and make it stick this time

then you can have your mexican rim-pissers properly engaged

so quit posting crap here and get involved in making it happen :)