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Re: This is the reasonable path to a permanent solution

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:57 am
by Pudfark
I pretty much agree with both you (Fats&Nic).
I've mention two words often, lately, they are:
Accountability & Responsibility
Those two and when you factor in Political Correctness?
You have the recipe for?
What we have now.
Which is?
A government which is criminally lacking in the first two and
excusing themselves for it....by blaming their actions on the need to be?
Politically Correct.
An educational system just as corrupt, teaching our kids the same.
All of it is the American People and their fault. Apathy & Greed for now,
dictate our future. What folks here seem to dismiss?
That as a certainty, we will not dictate the future, it will dictate to us.

Other things like...making pot legal vs job creation? Well, seems the importance is
in the order listed. Obama is back in his orifice and it's ironic how the word "job" has disappeared from his dialogues.

My country is folding like a cheap deck of cards...
What a lot of folks here (U.S.) ain't paying attention about?
The quiet folks have been silently buying weapons, ammunition and food.
All while the "loud" folks have been standing in line for the "freebies".

If my country folds...it's gonna be loud.

Re: This is the reasonable path to a permanent solution

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:41 am
by nicolas10
Good post.

Nic

Re: This is the reasonable path to a permanent solution

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:30 pm
by Buzz
I don't see Obama making pot legal. It's a federal offence in all states.

Re: This is the reasonable path to a permanent solution

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:43 pm
by Pudfark
Buzz, you might have missed this...but, Obama has publicly stated (recently)
that he had no interest in enforcing Federal Drug Laws as they pertain to pot in Colorado and Washington.

Honestly, he can't do that. He swore some kind of oath to enforce all laws, "uphold
the constitution".

So, unilaterally, once again, he's circumvented (loop holed) our laws and congress.
It's the way I see it and I ain't alone.

For the record...I ain't got anything against "rope smokers".
I do have major issues with folks, who are in a position of Authority, Accountability
and Responsibility, who have Sworn an Oath....Knowingly and Intentionally breaking
that Oath, to further their own Personal Agenda.

Call it what you like?
That's what it is.

Re: This is the reasonable path to a permanent solution

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:47 pm
by Buzz
How could I have missed that? We argued how many pages over it?

He still didn't make pot legal. If a fed wants to bust you for pot. He'll do it.

Re: This is the reasonable path to a permanent solution

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:53 pm
by Pudfark
Well Buzz he says he won't.
His words not mine.

Re: This is the reasonable path to a permanent solution

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:03 pm
by Buzz
I didn't know Obama was making pot arrests?

Pick a president that you liked, and i'll bet he was doing the same thing on other laws. I'm sure they were.

Sometimes it's better to let the states handle the problem. The feds have enough to keep them busy.

Re: This is the reasonable path to a permanent solution

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:15 pm
by Pudfark
Not trying to poke ya in the eye?
But what legally relieves the Federal Government of the
Duty and Responsibility of ignoring the law's that "We" made.
Convenience?

When Governments choose to ignore the laws and the rules,
imposed upon them by the people?
How does that work out, historically?

Re: This is the reasonable path to a permanent solution

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:19 pm
by Buzz
Maybe the same reason you don't get a ticket for going 1 mph over the speed limit?

Re: This is the reasonable path to a permanent solution

Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2012 2:08 pm
by Pudfark
Buzz wrote:I didn't know Obama was making pot arrests?

Pick a president that you liked, and i'll bet he was doing the same thing on other laws. I'm sure they were.

Sometimes it's better to let the states handle the problem. The feds have enough to keep them busy.
Obama don't make pot arrests... The DOJ, Eric Holder is supposed to...and now he won't in at least two states. What about the other 48?

I can pick all the Presidents in the last 35 years who have willfully ignored our Immigration Laws. That don't make it right and multiple wrongs don't make it
right, either.

Obama & the DOJ don't let the "states" handle their problems.
Arizona, for example.