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Re: Whats with Obama

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 6:58 pm
by Reservoir_Dog
Dawg wrote:Additionally it must be covered quickly and not eaten, burned, rotted, decomposed or stuffed and mounted.
Problem is that humans for quite some time have been tending to fellow dead humans with ceremonies that aren't conducive to making human fossils.
True.

Re: Whats with Obama

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:16 pm
by CUDA
Dawg wrote:

I was reading the latest Nat Geo where they have an article that calculates the amount of people that "should" have lived on the earth over the last 30K years. it has a total of 108 Billion. surely if that was the case we would have a larger fossil record to glean from. where is it? even Darwin stated if there was a flaw in his theory it was the lack of the fossil records.

erm, it takes a minimum of 10K years for a fossil to form, and to form it must be enveloped in a couple of specific kinds of material. Additionally it must be covered quickly and not eaten, burned, rotted, decomposed or stuffed and mounted.
Problem is that humans for quite some time have been tending to fellow dead humans with ceremonies that aren't conducive to making human fossils.
all supposed 108 billion were disposed of in this manner??? if that's not the case and some died in a normal non-disposed of manner then explain the Dinosaur fossils and no man fossils. just another question I have :D
Further, that chart is mathematically progressive, certainly there weren't 50 million humans around 30,000 years ago, eh?
I didn't make the chart, I just reported what the man calculated. his claim is 108 billion have walked the earth since man has been around, if that's true there HAS to be some kind of physical record. fossil, written or otherwise. it does not seem to exist. why? even the oldest man made structures date back only approx 8-10k years.
Evolution is a fact. as I said earlier, how arrogant of man to think a divine being wouldn't setup such a method to adapt to what would likely be an ever changing universe.
did I say evolution wasn't fact? now your sounding like HH. and we all know what an Einstein he is. Slick was right it's origin of species that is so far unprovable, not evolution.

Re: Whats with Obama

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:17 pm
by HappyHappy
A lot of human "fossils" are not that at all, they are real bone and sinew.
The Fossil record for humans is pretty good for the past few million years
getting pretty sparse the further you go back.
The idea of a "Missing Link" is nonsense. Evolution in such a short period
of time tends to be more gradual. Still the Human fossil record
is incomplete. The very recent accent of modern human is so
recent that it is hard to put it all together.
The modern understanding seems to be we are a hybrid of at least
5 different branches of the human family tree including Neanderthal
and Cromagnon.
So people, what would you like? Humans, birds and how detailed?
This page is far to small to post all of it and you will have to to links
to view the so called evidence.
I will happily post everything I can find here.
Bird evolution can be traced back much further than humans.
We have a broken fossil bird record at least 163,000,000 years old.
Humans only about 7,000,000 and modern humans about 300,000.
All birds are Dinosaurs and there is a growing body of evidence that
most if not all all Dinosaurs had feathers.

HH
Dawg wrote:

I was reading the latest Nat Geo where they have an article that calculates the amount of people that "should" have lived on the earth over the last 30K years. it has a total of 108 Billion. surely if that was the case we would have a larger fossil record to glean from. where is it? even Darwin stated if there was a flaw in his theory it was the lack of the fossil records.

erm, it takes a minimum of 10K years for a fossil to form, and to form it must be enveloped in a couple of specific kinds of material. Additionally it must be covered quickly and not eaten, burned, rotted, decomposed or stuffed and mounted.
Problem is that humans for quite some time have been tending to fellow dead humans with ceremonies that aren't conducive to making human fossils.
Further, that chart is mathematically progressive, certainly there weren't 50 million humans around 30,000 years ago, eh?
Evolution is a fact. as I said earlier, how arrogant of man to think a divine being wouldn't setup such a method to adapt to what would likely be an ever changing universe.

Re: Whats with Obama

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:21 pm
by Reservoir_Dog
Natural selection and evolution exist hand in hand.
They are symbiotic with each other and create a process.

Re: Whats with Obama

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:07 pm
by Dawg
why? even the oldest man made structures date back only approx 8-10k years.
uhm...http://news.discovery.com/archaeology/o ... -cave.html 23,000 years.
As I'm only guessing, our oldest structures being made of shit that wasn't like concrete and plastics pretty much as rotted away with the passing of time, no? And then the old standby of finding a cave, or just standing there like a dumbass cave man in the rain with no cave was probably hugely popular then.
You think we dropped outta the trees and started the pyramids? :lol:
I didn't make the chart, I just reported what the man calculated. his claim is 108 billion have walked the earth since man has been around, if that's true there HAS to be some kind of physical record. fossil, written or otherwise.
again, you think music and the written word just came into existence? One day you're not running from some other Neanderthals trying to smash your head and suddenly they have time to create? Look at our own technological advancements for fucksake, 100 years ago, a mere blink, crap, LESS than a blink in time we were clueless about bacteria, radio waves, genetics, its quantum leap man, 50 years from now, we'll know 4 times as much as we did 50 years ago.
Jump back just a bit further, 500 years, flat earth, 5 planets and the sun that spun (maybe) around us, go 1000 years back again...
our brains alone are proof of our own evolution- you dont have to sprout curved beaks and wings to evolve. Mentally we are..oh fuck it, Hells Kitchen is on, later

Re: Whats with Obama

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:16 am
by Buzz
Hell's Kitchen??

You like a lot of screaming for no reason?

Re: Whats with Obama

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:13 am
by HappyHappy
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/662794.stm

500,000 years old built by early humans.

http://haysvillelibrary.files.wordpress ... boldt1.jpg

Early Bird about 150,000,000 years ago.

HH

Re: Whats with Obama

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:26 pm
by Darkhorse
HappyHappy wrote:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/662794.stm

500,000 years old built by early humans.
"If this is correctly dated and correctly interpreted....How was it dated? Who interpreted it?
HappyHappy wrote:http://haysvillelibrary.files.wordpress ... boldt1.jpg

Early Bird about 150,000,000 years ago.

HH
How was it dated?

Re: Whats with Obama

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:51 pm
by Dawg
Buzz wrote:Hell's Kitchen??

You like a lot of screaming for no reason?
the one where he goes into a dead restaurant and tries to turn it around. :lol:

Re: Whats with Obama

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:15 pm
by CUDA
Dawg wrote:
why? even the oldest man made structures date back only approx 8-10k years.
uhm...http://news.discovery.com/archaeology/o ... -cave.html 23,000 years.
As I'm only guessing, our oldest structures being made of shit that wasn't like concrete and plastics pretty much as rotted away with the passing of time, no? And then the old standby of finding a cave, or just standing there like a dumbass cave man in the rain with no cave was probably hugely popular then.
You think we dropped outta the trees and started the pyramids? :lol:
I didn't make the chart, I just reported what the man calculated. his claim is 108 billion have walked the earth since man has been around, if that's true there HAS to be some kind of physical record. fossil, written or otherwise.
again, you think music and the written word just came into existence? One day you're not running from some other Neanderthals trying to smash your head and suddenly they have time to create? Look at our own technological advancements for fucksake, 100 years ago, a mere blink, crap, LESS than a blink in time we were clueless about bacteria, radio waves, genetics, its quantum leap man, 50 years from now, we'll know 4 times as much as we did 50 years ago.
Jump back just a bit further, 500 years, flat earth, 5 planets and the sun that spun (maybe) around us, go 1000 years back again...
our brains alone are proof of our own evolution- you dont have to sprout curved beaks and wings to evolve. Mentally we are..oh fuck it, Hells Kitchen is on, later
Dawg, I'd love to respond to what you said. but my English to gibberish translator is broken :P