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Re: Three days..Three weeks..Three months..

Posted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 8:57 pm
by HappyHappy
callmeslick wrote:I am an idiot consumed by propaganda)
Fixed, and the truth revealed.


HH

Re: Three days..Three weeks..Three months..

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:53 am
by callmeslick
how original.

"somebody hacked this board" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Three days..Three weeks..Three months..

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:27 am
by Pudfark
callmeslick wrote:how original.

"somebody hacked this board" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I wish they could hack it...and maybe post some links fer ya.

Old Pudfark sez: " Slick is the missing link to evolution....here. "

Re: Three days..Three weeks..Three months..

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:19 pm
by callmeslick
links, you say? Digest this:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2 ... ost-curve/

healthcare spending is plummetting.....according to Forbe's numbers, to boot. But, but, but, that's not what Ted Cruz predicted. Bwahahahahaha.

Re: Three days..Three weeks..Three months..

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:45 pm
by HappyHappy
Idiot, that's because with the massive co-pays and people losing their coverage
fewer people are visiting hospitals and doctors.

What a fool!

One good thing, there are finally enough parking spaces at Concord Hospital.

No shit moron, it is that obvious.

HH

Re: Three days..Three weeks..Three months..

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 5:07 pm
by callmeslick
"somebody is hacking this board" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

try another guess,Slappy, because Forbes says that one is bullshit.

Re: Three days..Three weeks..Three months..

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 5:09 pm
by Pudfark
From Forbes:

"To be sure, a big part of the decline in healthcare spending is the result of the recession’s impact on people’s ability to lay out cash on health related expenditures. Indeed, up until this point, most analysts have agreed that the poor economy was pretty much the sole cause for the improvement we have seen in containing the explosion of healthcare spending."

"Now, experts are beginning to recognize that the Affordable Care Act may, in fact, be contributing to the good news—a significant development as bending the cost curve was a primary goal of Obamacare." That's some pretty fast recognition over a seven week span...especially since them same folks, don't know, can't verify and ain't being told, how many folks are Enrolled in ObamaCare? Most discerning folk would say....they's guessing, cuz there ain't no way for them to know. Biden is prolly closer to the truth and he's guessing. Then ya could factor in HH's surmise and it's arguably damned accurate too.

Appreciate the link Slick.... :)

Here's one from me.... :)

Tracking ObamaCare: As enrollment deadline nears, law endures 28 delays and counting

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/02 ... elays-and/

"Since its inception, provisions of the law have been delayed a total of 28 times; the average delay was six months and three weeks. Put another way, the cumulative delays add up to an astonishing 15 years and three months.

The administration has been announcing changes to the law at a fairly steady clip.

The White House's latest delay was rolled out on Feb. 10, and allowed companies with between 50 and 99 workers to skirt the mandate to provide health care until 2016.

Of the White House's 28 delays to the law, 13 have been set to last at least one year. Eight revisions last a month or more. The shortest delay, announced in December 2013, gave Americans one extra day to purchase coverage that would begin on Jan. 1, 2014 through HealthCare.gov. Ultimately, that delay was extended to a vague "more time."

So, ya factor in my link above to this quote from yer link above.. "Now, experts are beginning to recognize that the Affordable Care Act may, in fact, be contributing to the good news—a significant development as bending the cost curve was a primary goal of Obamacare." Then throw in the complete lack of numbers...from yer link...and I do believe a reasonable person would concur? Somebody is "just guessing"...and the "rules/law" is being changed...so frequently...to keep them guessing.

For what purpose?

Re: Three days..Three weeks..Three months..

Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:02 pm
by callmeslick
on your link, I sort of agree with my neighbor Joe's take: 6 million was likely overoptimistic, but adding 4 or 5 million new people to the ranks of the insured is a big damned deal.

Re: Three days..Three weeks..Three months..

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 12:46 pm
by Pudfark
Ok.

Here's what's strange/incomprehensible to folks like myself?
Website viewers and those who have enrolled?
Everybody in charge of the ACA, none of them have assigned anyone?
To call the approved "ACA HealthCare Providers" in each state, to find out?
How many folks, currently, have a paid for policy that meets the ACA criteria?

How hard could it be? To assign one "dipstick" employee to a desk with a telephone to call the insurers and ask the simple question above? Can somebody,anybody....tell me "WHY" that ain't been done? or Can anybody think of a reason, WHY they don't want that done?

Can you imagine? Asking a company like Chevrolet? How many trucks did ya make last year? Chevrolet tells ya "we made 200,000. You ask them, How many did ya sell? Chevrolet then sez, "We don't know". Then ya ask Chevrolet, How many trucks are ya gonna make next year? Chevrolet sez, 400,000. You ask, why so many? Chevrolet sez, because of the demand. You ask Chevrolet how many of the 400,000 do ya expect to sell? Chevrolet sez, we don't know, maybe 4-5 million....? You sell all yer Chevrolet Stock. Chevrolet asks, why you sold it, when they're doing so well?

Just like Chevrolet knows, so do Insurance Companies. Everybody can count. Nobody is counting. Why?

Re: Three days..Three weeks..Three months..

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 2:58 pm
by callmeslick
Pudfark wrote:Ok.

Here's what's strange/incomprehensible to folks like myself?
pretty much everything that involves either common sense or accepted facts, from what I've read over the years.
Website viewers and those who have enrolled?
Everybody in charge of the ACA, none of them have assigned anyone?
To call the approved "ACA HealthCare Providers" in each state, to find out?
How many folks, currently, have a paid for policy that meets the ACA criteria?
care to re-phrase this in English, or something close? This is gibberish.
How hard could it be? To assign one "dipstick" employee to a desk with a telephone to call the insurers and ask the simple question above? Can somebody,anybody....tell me "WHY" that ain't been done? or Can anybody think of a reason, WHY they don't want that done?
because the function of the law, and the function of the healthcare insurance industry isn't to attempt to clear up things for the abjectly stupid, who refuse to see the facts that are already extant. Bottom line is that the insurers(and there are dozens of them across the nation, many dozens) know who is on their books. They have to, or they wouldn't be paying claims(and, I can vouch, they are paying the claims just fine), nor send out the bills(can assure all they are doing this, too). The states know how many folks are on the Medicaid rolls, too. That they aren't wasting corporate or public money to compile up-to-date lists for you to digest isn't their concern.

What you might wish to focus on is why are right-wingers now focused(see:Arkansas) on blowing up Medicaid and tossing hundreds of thousands of people off the list of the insured? It isn't like it is costing any more to cover them(for the states), and the economic cost of doing so is potentially staggering. How come it was a horror show that some people temporarily lost policies(which were promptly replaced) a few months back, but it's OK now to put old people onto the streets and take healthcare from families and children. Sick-ass moral emptiness of the right wing, it would appear. The people are starting to wake up to that, I think.......