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Re: Three days..Three weeks..Three months..

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 4:50 pm
by Pudfark
Don't you want to know...what affects the "huge" premium increases the vast majority of this country (who have ObamaCare) are going to be facing? The number of "covered" folks is unimportant if you don't care. Truth is? You never did care. ObamaCare was a ruse to force a single payer system...all along. It is designed to fail. The 28 changes/delays Obama has made,illegally,.... thus far, are to buy time to "insure" that it fails....

It seems to me, Hillary will then run fer "Precedent/President", vowing to straighten this "mess" out. With her plan from 20 years ago....single payer. That will be what she runs on/after. This, I believe, has been planned for years.

Why you Dem's decided to go "all in" on this and why now? Is a mystery to many. Seems to me if you win? You lose. If you lose, you lose big. Y'all should read some history books...the old ones, not the one's you've already "changed". ;)

Re: Three days..Three weeks..Three months..

Posted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 5:58 pm
by callmeslick
Pudfark wrote:Don't you want to know...what affects the "huge" premium increases the vast majority of this country (who have ObamaCare) are going to be facing?
sure, were there an iota of serious evidence that would happen. The law sort of prevents it.
The number of "covered" folks is unimportant if you don't care. Truth is? You never did care. ObamaCare was a ruse to force a single payer system...all along. It is designed to fail. The 28 changes/delays Obama has made,illegally,.... thus far, are to buy time to "insure" that it fails....
what matters to me, and I suspect, the electorate, is that more people are now covered, and far more people are better-covered than was the case three years ago. And THAT is very important.
It seems to me, Hillary will then run fer "Precedent/President", vowing to straighten this "mess" out. With her plan from 20 years ago....single payer. That will be what she runs on/after. This, I believe, has been planned for years.
well, she DID want Universal Coverage before. I is not off the radar to think she still feels(as at least 35-40 percent of the rest of us do) that it is still a good idea.
Why you Dem's decided to go "all in" on this and why now?
so a compromised based on long-standing Republican ideas and practice(Massachusetts) is 'all in'? Who knew?
Is a mystery to many. Seems to me if you win? You lose. If you lose, you lose big. Y'all should read some history books...the old ones, not the one's you've already "changed". ;)
here's some history to ponder. Whenever a party is in the Presidency when the nation(or any nation by a lot of studies) recovers from an economic downturn, which ALL indicators show that we have(despite hallucinatory claims by some right-wingers, and every possible means by the elected GOP to defuse it), that party stays in power for over a decade or more. Longer term if the collapse was bad, which ours was. As the campaign says, get 'Ready for Hillary'.

Re: Three days..Three weeks..Three months..

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:16 am
by HappyHappy
Show us the "recovery" data.
This still aint the great depression, but
I fail to see a recovery. The economy
is being consumed daily by Chinese goods
and $100+ a barrel oil.

Fucking "Democrats" lie even when the truth is a better story.

HH

Re: Three days..Three weeks..Three months..

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:54 am
by callmeslick
HappyHappy wrote:Show us the "recovery" data.
stock market quotes, unemployment numbers, GDP figures are all a matter of public record. Look them up for yourself, idiot. This subtle point is likely
to elude you, but notice how you whine to me about data, and then give your (whacked) opinion only, with nothing to back it up. You cite top end
oil prices, which fluctuate daily, and have been pretty fairly priced of late(thanks to a less incindiary Obama foreign policy), and trade with China, which,
while I have issues with consumer demand for dirt-cheap products hurting domestic workers, is hardly a recent development. Or, have we been in the
Slappy-world recession for 30 years?


As for individuals in the economy,some of us are doing REALLY well, and all of us are doing better. At least now, several million more people have health coverage. My stock portfolio has tripled under Obama's term, and my overall portfolio is nearly doubled. That's what I call a recovery. Many would agree....

Re: Three days..Three weeks..Three months..

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:17 pm
by Pudfark
callmeslick wrote:
HappyHappy wrote:Show us the "recovery" data.
stock market quotes, unemployment numbers, GDP figures are all a matter of public record. Look them up for yourself, idiot. This subtle point is likely
to elude you, but notice how you whine to me about data, and then give your (whacked) opinion only, with nothing to back it up. You cite top end
oil prices, which fluctuate daily, and have been pretty fairly priced of late(thanks to a less incindiary Obama foreign policy), and trade with China, which,
while I have issues with consumer demand for dirt-cheap products hurting domestic workers, is hardly a recent development. Or, have we been in the
Slappy-world recession for 30 years?


As for individuals in the economy,some of us are doing REALLY well, and all of us are doing better. At least now, several million more people have health coverage. My stock portfolio has tripled under Obama's term, and my overall portfolio is nearly doubled. That's what I call a recovery. Many would agree....
Well now..addressing that from top to bottom:

"Whining about Data and substituting whacked opinions" is your trait Slick...very colorful that you complain of same...here.

"now, several million more people have health coverage." Talk about "whacked opinions" :lol: Less folks are insured at this moment than in Sept. 2013. Prove it. Supply the enrollment Data instead of substituting Web site visits...or admit it's yer "whacked opinion".

"Many would agree"...Everybody doubts that...Huge increases in those on Food Stamps...until Obama cut back on it. Can't measure unemployment when folks are/were unemployed no longer receive any benefits, Thanx to Obama. Many would agree yer a two faced dick sometimes...this would be one of them. Glad you personally are doing so well and "sharing it". Not so glad, yer doing it off the backs of others.

Re: Three days..Three weeks..Three months..

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 1:16 pm
by HappyHappy
Instead of data we are fed rhetoric.
In this case there is no data to back him up.

Rhetorical bullshit and lies, it's the Democratic way.

HH

Re: Three days..Three weeks..Three months..

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:02 pm
by callmeslick
two visitors from fantasy land.....and, as always NOTHING to back up the bizarre claims.

Re: Three days..Three weeks..Three months..

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:14 pm
by HappyHappy
Nothing to back your "Fairy tale".
Just bullshit. But we are used to that.
I expect nothing more.

HH

Re: Three days..Three weeks..Three months..

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:02 pm
by Pudfark
@HH...you may find the below link an interesting read?
For sure....If Slick should choose to "skim it"....? He should have some "tum's" on hand for the IBS, that's sure to follow....

Here it is: Why Progressives must Lie

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government ... s-must-lie

I believe, you'll find HH....you've been closer to the truth...than Slick will ever admit. ;)

Re: Three days..Three weeks..Three months..

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:24 am
by callmeslick
so, a couple of flaming conservatives be hatin' on liberals. This is enlightening, how? Moreover, how does it explain how the right has ever more narrowly defined anyone who is moderate or even right-of-center as a 'liberal' or 'Progressive'? It doesn't, clearly. Frankly, the American conservative movement has come to offer nothing but negativity, hatred and outright lies, and the public is sick of it.