A Complete Waste of Space

OK, What about a lollypop?

Loco-S wrote:OK, What about a lollypop?

should be easy enough to do.....Barnum once said there was one born every minute, or words to that effect.

callmeslick wrote:

Pudfark wrote: We could have a national I.D. card...but, the Dems don't want it

neither side wants it. And, the reason is simple if you understand politics. These folks are looking down the road. Yes, we have a lot of illegals in country, but that problem goes back for over 20 years. By now, lots of illegals have had children, and those children are (see 14th Amendment) legal citizens, once born here.
That fact, coupled with legal immigration and birthrates, makes it likely that Hispanics will be the largest voting bloc in the US by 2040, maybe sooner. Neither party wishes to get an ass-kicking for a generation or two by being seen as 'anti-Hispanic'. Thus, given the inherent wimpiness of politicians, neither Republicans nor Democrats, on a national basis, intend to really do a damned thing about really tough laws. And, that's the reality. Deal with it.

Well, Slick....hmmm, So you're saying "fear" and "politicians" run the country, "deal with it".
I say feck'm all. Vote all of them, "fear mongering, panty waisted, sniveling thieves" out. Deal with that.

Slick you seem to have a greater interest in understanding politicians than you do the public?

Old Pudfark sez: " Ain't it funny to see them Dem's, running from office....instead of runnin fer it "

additionally maddening one of the FAQ on the food stamp program reads like this:

http://www.co.portage.oh.us/jfs/pdfs_mi ... stance.pdf

its a short pdf download, go to page two, at the bottom.
IF that doesn't tell you why cali is dead broke and make your eyes bleed....
how can that possibly be a LAW!??!!!!!
Some one said that a few months ago, and I refused to believe it...yet, there it is, a gov site spelling out why you dont need to fear the INS to get food stamps, med help, or anything....

Dawg, it all goes back to due process law. In other words, by our system of laws, once a person is in this country, quite a bit of the benefits of citizenship are granted. The SCOTUS has upheld this for a couple of centuries.

Slick...maybe your explanation is poor..or maybe it's your understanding....hard to tell....

Some rights of U.S. citizens are granted to foreign nationals.....by law, benefits are not....huge difference and you and the politicians seemed to get confused by it....expecially when they are handing out "our" money.....to Illegal Aliens (felons all).

Why is it you seem to have such a problem sticking up for the rights of legitimate U.S. citizens...to include enforcement of all laws? Why is it that you and yours support selective law enforcement? Is it to advance/promote your agenda ahead of the legitimate rights of others? I certainly thinks so and I bet others do as well....

Old Pudfark sez: " Yer turn and this time try for more accuracy "

Pudfark wrote: Why is it you seem to have such a problem sticking up for the rights of legitimate U.S. citizens...

Because he's a perfect Democrat. He loathes the country he lives in and thinks it's ok for the brown skinned people to do whatever they want because he believes that somehow as a cracker he owes them something. Which is kinda racist on the surface. Unless he just doesn't give a shit and he doesn't obey the law as well. Which I'm inclined to believe.

at no point did anything I wrote suggest that the law is perfect. But, that IS the law of the land, as defined by our Supreme court. Anyone within our borders gets due process rights. Anyone. All the time. Now, some states, and some federal agencies have taken this to mean that programs should be administered without regard to legal citizenship. Here, I generally disagree. Even though I can see the logic behind driver's licensure and some other fringe issues, I still generally don't think it's a good idea to give any benefit to everyone, regardless of legality, as it tends to blur the lines and make weeding out the illegals harder than it already is.
What is funny to read, though, is how I merely state the legal justification used for what Dawg cited as current fact, and 'bingo!', Ruggie assumes I am all in favor of it. Pud just expressed confusion, which is fine, in fact, he should do so more often, IMHO. But, Ruggie, get a grip and possibly a pair of reading glasses. I never suggested that I was in favor of that reality. Sorry to disappoint you.

Oh, and to clarify, Ruggie, what I do believe in(or at least, am starting to come around to):

I think all folks who cannot trace at least one relative back to the 1750 census in the original 13 colonies should leave the US, with the exception of native Americans(they were here first, but for some reason, chose not to participate in the census). Once we get this late-coming garbage out of our overcrowded land,
we can go about returning most of the West to the Native Americans, return Texas, Mexico and Arizona
to Mexico, and those of us remaining can live happily ever after. There, I said it.

callmeslick wrote:I think all folks who cannot trace at least one relative back to the 1750 census in the original 13 colonies should leave the US

There ya go, talking out of the side of your mouth again. I thought due process was for everyone once "they were in this country". That's your problem, son. I have a hard time believing you have any convictions at all when you're so wishy washy and ride both sides of the fence.

we can go about returning most of the West to the Native Americans, return Texas, Mexico and Arizona
to Mexico, and those of us remaining can live happily ever after.

Yep, another Democrat who doesn't believe in eminent domain. Fact of the matter is that the land that used to belong to Mexico was purchased with gold. All legal like. Now maybe you don't believe a deal is a deal but there are the rest of us who do.

And how far back do you wanna go? Cuz originally this whole country was part of the Africa's landmass so maybe we were right in punishing those damn redskins and we should give it back to the blacks. We're doing good so far, the black guy is in charge.