responsible American gun owners

[Darkhorse]

the guns were purchased here in the good old USA. Feck yeah! Thus far, I haven't seen any reason to doubt that the two WERE into something fishy. I mean, you don't get pissed and run home to grab the military gear and weapons, because the average citizen isn't set up to do that. So I'm quite sure they might have been radicalized, or been part of some group....who knows, maybe doomsday preppers, for all I know. What I do know is that without US gun laws being so lax, they would have been pissed off and unarmed. These will change and this might be the impetus to do so. When the right-leaning NY Daily News is calling for aggressive changes in the gun law(Rupert Murdoch), we may be getting someplace.

Explain what gun law that (we don't already have) would have prevented this?

[callmeslick]

stricter oversight over transfers of all sort. Not only background checks but folks buying guns to give to others. Frankly, DH, I suspect the LAWS may be fine, but when Congress has gutted the agencies that do the oversight(which has been the case for 20 years or so), the laws per se are meaningless.

[Pudfark]

stricter oversight over transfers of all sort. Not only background checks but folks buying guns to give to others. Frankly, DH, I suspect the LAWS may be fine, but when Congress has gutted the agencies that do the oversight(which has been the case for 20 years or so), the laws per se are meaningless.

"stricter oversight"....like Fast n Furious, like at the border, like at Planned Parenthood, like the IRS, like the State Department etc.
So, Slick, explain how they could'a been prevented from having/making a dozen or so pipe bombs? Obama has proven, over and over again, "the laws per se are meaningless."

Old Pudfark sez: " If'n them laws are so 'meaningless'? How can you say, we need more of them? "

[callmeslick]

if you can't figure out how oversight over explosive sales can't prevent making pipe bombs, Pud, you are dumber than we've already given you credit for.

[Pudfark]

thank you slick for another 'meaningless' remark.

[Darkhorse]

sure, tell that to the folks going into the morgue in San Bernadino.

Is it just me or is there a mass shooting just about every other day in the United States.

Norway had the highest annual death rate, with 2 mass public shooting fatalities per million people. Macedonia had a rate of 0.38, Serbia 0.28, Slovakia 0.20, Finland 0.14, Belgium 0.14, and the Czech Republic 0.13. The US comes in No. 8 with 0.095 mass public shooting fatalities per million people. Austria and Switzerland are close behind.
In terms of the frequency of attacks, the United States ranks ninth, with 0.09 attacks per million people. Macedonia, Serbia, Switzerland, Norway, Slovakia, Finland, Belgium, and the Czech Republic all had higher rates.
State University of New York-Oswego public justice professor Jaclyn Schildkraut and Texas State University researcher H. Jaymi Elsass

It's just you! And most of the countries listed above have a ban on all guns!!

[Reservoir_Dog]

sure, tell that to the folks going into the morgue in San Bernadino.

Is it just me or is there a mass shooting just about every other day in the United States.

Norway had the highest annual death rate, with 2 mass public shooting fatalities per million people. Macedonia had a rate of 0.38, Serbia 0.28, Slovakia 0.20, Finland 0.14, Belgium 0.14, and the Czech Republic 0.13. The US comes in No. 8 with 0.095 mass public shooting fatalities per million people. Austria and Switzerland are close behind.
In terms of the frequency of attacks, the United States ranks ninth, with 0.09 attacks per million people. Macedonia, Serbia, Switzerland, Norway, Slovakia, Finland, Belgium, and the Czech Republic all had higher rates.
State University of New York-Oswego public justice professor Jaclyn Schildkraut and Texas State University researcher H. Jaymi Elsass

It's just you!

I'm not talking about fatality rates. I'm talking about the sheer number of mass shootings.
A mass shooting with only 1 fatality ... but 20 wounded ... is still a mass shooting. Hell, 20 wounded with NO fatalities is still a mass shooting! Why do people only count the dead?
I'm talking about the ever growing sheer number of mass shootings in the United States. Not about how many people died in them.
Christ, I can't turn on the news anymore without hearing about a new mass shooting in the United States!

[callmeslick]

for the record, we have had 355 mass shootings this year, slightly more than one per day.

[HappyHappy]

Pud, it's not about preventing mass shootings.
It's about control of the masses.

[Reservoir_Dog]

for the record, we have had 355 mass shootings this year, slightly more than one per day.

THIS is what I'm talking about.