Drug Cartel's influence working it's way towards Slicks home

[ruggbutt]

The intelligent ask questions and wonder whether things can be done better.

No, as is usual the leftie in you says more gun laws........which work about as well as drug laws do.

The ignorant can be easily identified by name-calling and telling those that disagree to shut up. Which camp have you fallen into of late?

Ok, now that's funny as hell. Calling me a name then saying I've been calling you names. I LOLzerd. As for which camp, I'm of the camp that's fed up with people such as yourself who fancies himself an elitist (therefore better than everyone else). Fact of the matter is you don't give a fuck about what's going on in this country unless you can get something more for yourself. You don't give a shit if it affects anyone else and you refuse to listen to people who have actually "been there, done that". So yeah Slick, I'm in the camp that sees you as an egotistical dumbfuck douchebag of epic proportions. And I'm not the only one who thinks so on these boards. I'd bet that even your east coast/douche bretheren see you as a douche.

[callmeslick]

No, as is usual the leftie in you says more gun laws........which work about as well as drug laws do.

no, I clearly stated 'better enforcement' of gun laws.

I'd bet that even your east coast/douche bretheren see you as a douche.

gotta love it when Ruggie gets down to putting generalizations on all Americans that live on the East Coast.
Toss that together with childish name calling, and you all can see a guy whose argument is nonexistant.

[Pudfark]

That last page or so on this thread..is entertaining......Most of east Texas lost the internet this morning...took half a day to restore it.....I really missed out..lol

Slick, while I don't really believe in reincarnation....If there is such a thing....there is no doubt in my mind.....that you will come back as a cat.....cuz, nobody else can shit in a small box, cover their turd, look innocent and keep such a straight face........

[callmeslick]

That last page or so on this thread..is entertaining......Most of east Texas lost the internet this morning...took half a day to restore it.....I really missed out..lol

I'm surprised you all have running water and flush toilets. Congrats on that Internet thing.

[ruggbutt]

no, I clearly stated 'better enforcement' of gun laws.

Where do you get that gun laws need to be better enforced? As much as I dislike the ATF (ya know, killing those kids in Waco) they and local law enforcement in most jurisdictions are doing a bang up job. Here's how it goes:

Say a gun is stolen, used in a crime. Cops look in their database and see that it was manufactured by X Company and they ask them which distributer/wholesaler they sent it to. Said distributor/wholesaler tells them that Ruggles Q. McButt bought it from them. Cops contact me and ask me who I sold it to. Since I'm one of the good guys I even have a photocopy of the Driver's License and form they filled out for the Sheriff's Department instant check. This points them back to the original purchaser. They contact purchaser. If they've sold it (some states don't allow private sales) usually they have some idea who it was sold to. It's not perfect but the system works. Stolen guns that are reported stolen are entered in the NCIC database. There are many ways to check who and where then there's the other ways cops check (fingerprints, DNA, ballistics, ejected casings, etc).

Even here in AZ cops that are pro gun have no problems taking away a firearm from someone who shouldn't have it. They have no problems filing charges if someone has a firearm illegally. It's a top priority here and it was in Vegas when I was working in a gun store there. I know for a fact it's the same in Texas as well as the Republik of Kalifornia. I'd bet money it's a top priority where you live.

You originally started with your "enforce gun laws" rant as a result of that photograph and/or discussion of the cartels having tons of weapons. They don't buy guns legally. They're too hard to get and pass the Federal background check. The guns are stolen. I remember many many years ago ('95/'96 IIRC) that ATF showed up at one of the largest gun stores in town cuz 1500 firearms were missing. Most were rifles. Those guns started showing up in Ireland and south of the border (U.S.). Every one was stolen. That's how the cartels get their firearms.

[Reservoir_Dog]

That last page or so on this thread..is entertaining......Most of east Texas lost the internet this morning...took half a day to restore it.....I really missed out..lol

I'm surprised you all have running water and flush toilets. Congrats on that Internet thing.

Houston got flush toilets thanks to British Petroleum.

[callmeslick]

It's a nasty business, drugs to the north, guns and money to the south, and the whole mess could probably be curtailed with a re-write of the drug laws and stricter enforcement of the firearms laws. And, at no point, would the whole sorry mess involve the immigration laws.

read this response to Fatman, previous page, with your glasses on.

[callmeslick]

Houston got flush toilets thanks to British Petroleum.

and in another year or two, they'll figure out how they work......

[ruggbutt]

read this response to Fatman, previous page, with your glasses on.

You'd have a point if the Feds (and local LE) were enforcing firearms laws with all the vim and vigor that they are enforcing immigration law. That's not the case. In fact, the ATF enforce laws that aren't on the books (regarding automatic weapons) which many of us deem as illegal. That's what our triple threat system of government is for (we can talk about that in another thread, you get confused easily).

To put it succinctly: If the Fed and local LE were enforcing immigration law as well as they enforce the gun laws I'd have nothing to bitch about. Seriously.

[callmeslick]

To put it succinctly: If the Fed and local LE were enforcing immigration law as well as they enforce the gun laws I'd have nothing to bitch about. Seriously.

you might wish to think so, but I'd bet you'd be wrong. The cartels have the resources to evade the most diligent immigration law(they'd get lost in the welter of Mexican illegals, Mexican-Americans and others) enforcement. Take away the money(reform drug laws), track firearms sales more quickly(we have computers and high-speed communications fercryingoutloud) and THEN you might have less to bitch about. You'd still bitch, mind you, about something, because that seems to be your nature.