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Re: HappyHappy
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:18 pm
by callmeslick
RS_Blooddrive wrote:I think I understand the evolotion theory pretty well...I was taught it through most of school. That creatures evoled from a single cell in a primeval oz. Then to a ape ...then to man. But there is something called the missing link. Where the ape stopped and man started.
who on Earth ever taught you that such a thing happened? It was one continuous process.
But man is the only one that has built civilisation. Can you explain that to me Slick? I have a hard time understanding that.
partly because we have to. Without socialization, most apes would be VERY vulnerable to predators. We don't have blinding speed, we don't have extreme size or strength. However, we have evolved brains that are a fascinating amalgram of systems used by other classes of animals, and have developed highly evolved social skills. Thus, we can act as a group, defend our social unit collectively, hunt collectively, etc.
Man headed to the top of the evolutionary heap by dint of extreme social organization, which became ever more efficient as a couple regions of the brain evolved much more prominently than prior ape species. A huge leap was the domestication of dogs, essentially the use of another entire species as a tool. And that tool led to much of the later development which we come to call 'civilization'. It's a long story, but one worth studying, if you have the free time.
Re: HappyHappy
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:34 pm
by HappyHappy
Wikki has an excellent page on Evolution, but it gets a bit technical in places.
Enjoy!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution
What is different with humans from other apes and animals
is the choice of brainpower in the quest for food and defence.
The Fossil record shows a gain in brain size in most animal species
such as wolves, or even Therapod Dinosaurs (Birds are Therapod Dinosaurs).
Big teeth, massive power, speed, quickness, sense of smell or armour
have been favored in the past. But in Primates, especially the Great Apes
brain capacity and size dominate the evolutionary path.
The rapidity of the increase in Hominid brain size over such a short time is astounding.
Whales have larger brains than ours, brains, but it was a far slower evolutionary trend.
And though possessing great intelligence, Whale brains are not geared towards abstract
thought and high reasoning.
HH
Re: HappyHappy
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:44 pm
by Buzz
So, when I retired from working my life ended? I have no life now?
Nothing is nothing. How do you define it? If life started with something. Where did that something come from? Who made it?
Keep in mind my question was pointed at Happy. I didn't reword it for you. Happy doesn't believe in books. I know that, because he doesn't believe the Bible. It was translated from original documents by eye witnesses.
So, I guess it's only fair that your books are written by eye witness too. Theory's don't count. That's not proof.
Oh, in your case. Everything you post will have to be learned in school too. I won't make you go as far back as when I was in school, but I should.
Knock yourself out.
Re: HappyHappy
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:49 pm
by HappyHappy
I read books daily. I do believe in some.
In particular Darwins "Origin of Species" is a favorite.
I reject the book of fables you call "the bible" as a collection of
old stories and metaphysical bull shit with a bit of history mixed in.
Rave on child, you don't have a clue as to whom I really am.
HH
Re: HappyHappy
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:52 pm
by callmeslick
bearkiller wrote:So, when I retired from working my life ended? I have no life now?
huh? What did I miss?
Keep in mind my question was pointed at Happy. I didn't reword it for you. Happy doesn't believe in books. I know that, because he doesn't believe the Bible. It was translated from original documents by eye witnesses.
care to prove that one?
Re: HappyHappy
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:05 pm
by HappyHappy
callmeslick wrote:bearkiller wrote:
huh? What did I miss?
Keep in mind my question was pointed at Happy. I didn't reword it for you. Happy doesn't believe in books. I know that, because he doesn't believe the Bible. It was translated from original documents by eye witnesses.
care to prove that one?
I was not going to challenge him on that issue.
I believe he is referring to the "King James" Bible.
I would love to see his proof of witnesses.
HH
Re: HappyHappy
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:08 pm
by Reservoir_Dog
bearkiller wrote:So, when I retired from working my life ended? I have no life now?
Nothing is nothing. How do you define it? If life started with something. Where did that something come from? Who made it?
Keep in mind my question was pointed at Happy. I didn't reword it for you. Happy doesn't believe in books. I know that, because he doesn't believe the Bible. It was translated from original documents by eye witnesses.
So, I guess it's only fair that your books are written by eye witness too. Theory's don't count. That's not proof.
Oh, in your case. Everything you post will have to be learned in school too. I won't make you go as far back as when I was in school, but I should.
Knock yourself out.
What? Are you kidding me? Is that post a serious attempt?
I was hoping that you wanted a serious debate. Apparently I was wrong.
bearkiller wrote:It was translated from original documents by eye witnesses.
You need to do some hard core research on the evolution of your "book".
bearkiller wrote:Theory's don't count. That's not proof.
Are you kidding? Your entire belief system is based on faith. You can't prove anything based on faith. Yet you suppose that theorys don't count? Do you not understand your own contradiction?
Re: HappyHappy
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:13 pm
by HappyHappy
I got a great idea.
Cuda and Bearkiller are believers in the god myth/bible.
Some of us see the world in the eye of both religion and science.
Others, me for instance, are Atheist.
Lets go back to ripping each other a political new asshole and drop this subject.
Bear and Cuda will never be swayed nor will I.
HH
Re: HappyHappy
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:29 pm
by Buzz
Happy..... When someone says to me "You have no idea who I am". I know immediately they're nobody.
I knew you'd back out on proving your evolution myth. Because you can't. Proving little tidbits won't work. Prove it from nothing to human. Forget about God. Prove what you stake your life on. Prove your beliefs. If you can't. Your beliefs are worthless.
Dog...I was never talking to you. You invited yourself. You made a statement that I learned evolution in school. Prove that I did. Prove that I was taught evolution is 100% correct, and show why it's 100% correct. You know you can't.
As for the original documents? They're hardly the KJB. They were written in the time of Jesus. How else could they be eye witness? They're not exactly available to every Joe Blow who wants to see them. They have been studied to death by many. Believers and non believers. Put some study into it like you do your evolution myth.
You all jump at evolution because it's easy for you. You can live as you please and not answer to anybody.
Re: HappyHappy
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:37 pm
by Reservoir_Dog
bearkiller wrote:They were written in the time of Jesus.
Wrong.
Do some research.
Then come back.