getting serious about the National Debt.

[Reservoir_Dog]

Hey pud, I'm going out for dinner in 1/2 an hour. Are you done ironing my shirt yet?

[Pudfark]

No...still trying to get the urine stain out of it.....should be done about the time ya get yer bra on......

[callmeslick]

funny, Pud seems to do little beyond muck up a serious thread, and then wonders elsewhere why I don't bother to respond to 5 other threads chock full of his stupidity.
Oh, and the Murdoch video......how come most of his economic ideas have failed every time they've been tried elsewhere, and what is he saying that he hasn't always said?

[ruggbutt]

Oh, and the Murdoch video......how come most of his economic ideas have failed every time they've been tried elsewhere, and what is he saying that he hasn't always said?

Same thing with Barry's economic ideas.

[callmeslick]

really? Some examples, Ruggie?

Obama's ideas, like:
1. Investing heavily in infrastructure and R and D on cutting edge technology?
2. Making sure trade deals don't screw our producers?
3. Trying to contain Healthcare costs, which stifle business?
4. Giving tax rebates to working families who pay taxes?

of course, folks managed to block the bulk of #1 and #3 but......they might just work if we had the political balls to try them.

What ideas are you talking about?

[Pudfark]

really? Some examples, Ruggie?

Obama's ideas, like:
1. Investing heavily in infrastructure and R and D on cutting edge technology?
2. Making sure trade deals don't screw our producers?
3. Trying to contain Healthcare costs, which stifle business?
4. Giving tax rebates to working families who pay taxes?

of course, folks managed to block the bulk of #1 and #3 but......they might just work if we had the political balls to try them.

What ideas are you talking about?

Damn you Slick...you made me giggle again.... " if we had the political balls"...Well, I've seen yer "political nuts" and I've seen a "bunch" of them sent home recently....You and yours had the last four years to address those issues. You didn't. Instead you pissed everybody off and ran up the bills... It's not "balls" you should be talking about, it's gall, your gall. Here is what is crystal clear to most of us here....Your Party can't lead, won't follow and are to damn slow to get out of the way.....a two year at a time process....once, enough of you are gone, then we can get down to bidness....

[callmeslick]

from the analysis of the first major poll(NBC/WSJ) since the election and also the debt reduction plan from Simpson/Barbour:

"Highlighting just how difficult this issue is:

•70 percent say they’re uncomfortable cutting spending on Medicare, Social Security, and defense spending.
•59 percent say they’re uncomfortable raising taxes on gas, limiting home mortgage deductions, and changing corporate tax rates.
•57 percent say they’re uncomfortable raising the retirement age to 69 – over the next 60 years. The retirement age is currently 67.
Those who say they’re most uncomfortable with these suggestions — those who are against all three — make up a group of strange bedfellows who are rarely aligned on policy matters: core Republicans and Tea Partiers as well as blacks, Latinos, union members, and suburban women."

[Pudfark]

Highlighting just how difficult this issue is

Ya know....you don't make any sense. You and yours said the American people can afford all this shit.

Highlight this concept: You figure out how to pay for it and don't stick yer hand in my pocket.

Old Pudfark sez: " It's like listening to a "crack head", whining about paying the rent.... "

[callmeslick]

Highlight this concept: You figure out how to pay for it and don't stick yer hand in my pocket.

lessee....you suck at the public teat for what, 25 years, and now, don't want to pay for the operations of your own government? Figure out how to pay for what? Social Security? Medicare? Unemployment compensation? The Defense Department? What part don't you begrudge? And why are legitimate expenses, fairly paid by taxation, sticking a hand in your pocket?

[Pudfark]

lessee....you suck at the public teat for what, 25 years, and now, don't want to pay for the operations of your own government? Figure out how to pay for what? Social Security? Medicare? Unemployment compensation? The Defense Department? What part don't you begrudge? And why are legitimate expenses, fairly paid by taxation, sticking a hand in your pocket?

Get yer facts straight, Slick. I served the public for 27 years. I don't want nor feel the need to pay for the indebtedness incurred by you and yours over the past couple of years. Health care has benefited no one. The billion/trillion dollar bailouts have only benefited the "select" few. Not to mention the 600 billion fed bail out last week....Thanx for the inflation.

I have my own health insurance and my own paid for pension. I make my own bed, cook my own meals, wash my own dishes, pay my own bills....a concept foreign to you.

It's a good thing for you that you have inherited well....based on the comments you make here? You couldn't make it on your own.

Old Pudfark sez: " Them what earns their own money? They be less likely to throw it/give it away "