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Re: The attack at Ft. Hood
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:18 pm
by Darkhorse
callmeslick wrote:Good points based on your experience. Still, the OP speaks to other issues, more of a apolitical nature. Civilians serving in key base functions, hell, the whole role of civilians in positions that should be military functions.
There are two main reasons that many positions have turned civilian (contractors included)
Put the uniformed personnel back into the combat slots using the numbers set by congress to the fullest advantage and it provides continuity in positions that are critical to sustaining the force. You will find that 90% of the military civilian force (excluding contractors) are retired or former military. In most cases there is a field grade officer (Major or above) commanding the civilians.
Re: The attack at Ft. Hood
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:54 pm
by ruggbutt
So Slick, do you have any decent conclusion why the raghead killed the soldiers?
Re: The attack at Ft. Hood
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 12:36 am
by Darkhorse
ruggbutt wrote:do you have any decent conclusion why the raghead killed the soldiers?
A radical Muslim that slipped through the cracks due to the progressive movement and all there PC bullshit! My 2 cents.
Re: The attack at Ft. Hood
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:52 am
by callmeslick
Darkhorse wrote:
There are two main reasons that many positions have turned civilian (contractors included)
Put the uniformed personnel back into the combat slots using the numbers set by congress to the fullest advantage and it provides continuity in positions that are critical to sustaining the force. You will find that 90% of the military civilian force (excluding contractors) are retired or former military. In most cases there is a field grade officer (Major or above) commanding the civilians.
isn't that more expensive? Further, as Pudfark noted, in this example(Ft Hood), first responders were primarily civilians(not contractors). The suspect was stopped by shots from a civilian female police officer.
That should be troubling.
Re: The attack at Ft. Hood
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:54 am
by callmeslick
Darkhorse wrote:ruggbutt wrote:do you have any decent conclusion why the raghead killed the soldiers?
A radical Muslim that slipped through the cracks due to the progressive movement and all there PC bullshit! My 2 cents.
Darkhorse might be right, but it could also be a disturbed individual who took it out on his employer. Way too soon to tell, but at least he's still alive to question, so we might end up with a 'decent conclusion' as to motives.
Re: The attack at Ft. Hood
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:44 am
by HappyHappy
The raghead has two 9MM bullets in his "brain". My guess is they will
pull the plug before mid week.
Tell me mr. callmeslick why it is that you support anyone who is anti American
or has a communist socialist orientation?
May I suggest a move to Canada, you would look like a conservative in that country.
HH
Re: The attack at Ft. Hood
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:54 am
by callmeslick
HappyHappy wrote:Tell me mr. callmeslick why it is that you support anyone who is anti American
or has a communist socialist orientation?
examples, please?? I'm hardly supporting anyone in this thread beyond the brave soldiers and civilians that stopped this wingnut.
May I suggest a move to Canada, you would look like a conservative in that country.
may I suggest that you shove it up your ignorant ass. My family was in this country for over 100 years before it became a country. Thus, I tend to be very big on America. If you can't handle differing opinions, it might be you that is living in the 'wrong' place.
Re: The attack at Ft. Hood
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:05 am
by ruggbutt
callmeslick wrote:[I tend to be very big on America.
For someone so "patriotic" you sure seem to think that we need to turn it into a socialist haven. Illegals everywhere draining our resources, making excuses for the raghead that shot the soldiers, saying that Obama does no wrong and so what if we're in the worst debt this country has ever seen. If it was a republican candidate then you'd be bitching and moaning about it.
Remember something, it's chief justices from
your party that overruled eminent domain. That ignore the Constitution and Bill of Rights. You're full of shit Slick. You're a shill for the DNC and just plain don't give a shit about anything with this country, it's founding fathers nor the law of the land they laid out that your party is doing it's best to dismantle.
Re: The attack at Ft. Hood
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:12 am
by callmeslick
ruggbutt wrote:For someone so "patriotic" you sure seem to think that we need to turn it into a socialist haven. Illegals everywhere draining our resources, making excuses for the raghead that shot the soldiers, saying that Obama does no wrong and so what if we're in the worst debt this country has ever seen. If it was a republican candidate then you'd be bitching and moaning about it.
just down to making stuff up now, huh, ruggie? I've clearly stated that I prefer regulated capitalism to socialism(remember my tax code change suggestions?). The illegal thing is an unfortunate fact, which we cannot undo, so have to deal with. Excuses for the Ft. Hood shooter?? I've said he's nuts, where the excuse there?? Obama doing no wrong?? Where have you read me suggesting that? I've clearly stated some worries about some of his first months, but temper it with the fact that it is early. Obama has very little to do with the debt situation,as a stimulus was going to come out of either party, eventually. Why do you support continuing the debt load by refusing to consider altering the tax code?
Remember something, it's chief justices from your party that overruled eminent domain.
I'm very well aware of that, and have been working on circumventing that ruling via legislation, thank you.
You're a shill for the DNC and just plain don't give a shit about anything with this country, it's founding fathers nor the law of the land they laid out that your party is doing it's best to dismantle.
If you get that out of my writings here over the years, you either never read them, can't comprehend written English, or just prefer to flat-out lie. Take your pick.
Re: The attack at Ft. Hood
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:40 am
by Darkhorse
callmeslick wrote:isn't that more expensive?
No Sir it is not. Lets take me as an example; I am a Battalion Communications Officer, normally held by a Captain or Senor Lieutenant. It takes tens of thousands of dollars to take a body off the street and train them up to a Captain or Senor Lieutenant so you do not want that officer sitting in a non-combat slot when you can use him/her in a line unit. My base pay is about that of a Captain but no money was used to train me it was all past experiences.
callmeslick wrote: Further, as Pudfark noted, in this example(Ft Hood), first responders were primarily civilians(not contractors). The suspect was stopped by shots from a civilian female police officer. That should be troubling.
That female police officer is DoD Security Police. It is a government police force keeping the MPs free to deploy.