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Re: Can We All say Double Standard?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:36 pm
by Buzz
So, you're agreeing that the majority believe what I said slick?
I never said they were smart.
Re: Can We All say Double Standard?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 8:53 pm
by callmeslick
maybe on gun boards, not in the larger nation. Not for one moment.
Re: Can We All say Double Standard?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:01 pm
by Buzz
Isn't hoarding ammo telling you anything? Do you know how much ammo was out there before this started? It takes millions of people to buy it all.
Re: Can We All say Double Standard?
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:24 pm
by Pudfark
It'd almost make ya think...Buzz?
That folks are seeing a "bigger picture"....
Much bigger than Slick and Company...have ever...
considered.
What comes to mind? Most folks will tolerate some "pushing"....
All folks have a point...where they won't be "pushed" anymore.
Sorta makes a responsible person?
Wonder....how much more are folks gonna take?
Then ya look at the shelves in the stores?
And they're empty.
Then ya factor in "Slick's Logic"?
" The word is mightier than the sword "
Apply a dab of history to the equation?
You conclusively find?
The fella with the sword?
Is the one who wrote the history.
What Slick and his ilk believe?
If, they can change history, they can make history.
Hitler thought that too.
First he disarmed and registered everybody.
Then he marched them to the death camps.
Hitler blamed those folks for Germany's problems.
Just like Slick and his Dem friends blame folks like you and me.
R_D goes along with Slick...cuz, he knows that 90% of all Canadians live along
the U.S. border. R_D is scared shit-less. Funny thing to me...Canada has been around just as long as the U.S. What do they have to show for it? Oh, that's right...
They have R_D.

Re: Can We All say Double Standard?
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:23 am
by callmeslick
first off, the issue isn't around gun ownership per se....Canada has as high or maybe even a higher percentage of the population who own guns. The issues around gun violence in the US involve everything from lax oversight of sales, very poor ammo and weapon storage practices and a national culture that is inherently violent in the last few decades.
However, given that one of the arguments made for having a gun is to be able to fight for personal liberty and the Constitution, I had reason to pause and think last night. I was catching up on DVR saves from when I was away yesterday and I watched Bill Maher's show from last weekend. Bill pointed out that the one thing that seems to pass in a truly bipartisan manner is further rules regarding privacy. The most recent, in December, enabled the government to keep any record, on any citizen, FOREVER. Forever! Coupled with previous stuff going back to the Patriot Act bills, that means that the government can access your mail, your reading habits, your internet usage, your phone calls and your personal contacts and travel details. And now, they can keep those records.....I repeat....FOREVER. Therefore, the argument that gun owners make that they are sitting on their porches protecting our liberty is bogus. We have lost the most fundamental liberty of all: PRIVACY. And, as Maher put it well: that makes the US sort of like a strip club with 45 Million bouncers and no strippers.
Re: Can We All say Double Standard?
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:38 am
by Buzz
Can, and do are two different things. They don't have the resources to do it now.
I know for a fact they aren't watching me, and I can prove it to you in a PM.
Re: Can We All say Double Standard?
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:52 am
by callmeslick
would love to read it.....and, given that I have two fishing buddies who work for or with the NSA, you might be surprised at how much database capacity is in place. Not that I feel much of that capacity is being used, but the simple right to maintain it, and not destroy data, is a serious infringement upon privacy, and ultimately, privacy is the core Liberty in our system.
Re: Can We All say Double Standard?
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 9:56 am
by Buzz
I blame those who invented big hard drives.

Re: Can We All say Double Standard?
Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 10:04 am
by callmeslick
if you ever followed security trends since the Manhattan project, you'd see a really scary path.