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Re: Love this story.

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:22 pm
by callmeslick
maybe, eventually, CUDA realized that you and a few others simply mock themselves with impunity, so why bother himself.....

Re: Love this story.

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:26 pm
by Pudfark
callmeslick wrote:maybe, eventually, CUDA realized that you and a few others simply mock themselves with impunity, so why bother himself.....
Who'd a thunk....I understood that, without a college agree/degree and I remembered it. :idea:

Re: Love this story.

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:18 pm
by Pudfark
HappyHappy wrote:
Pudfark wrote:All I know?
If I had to buy some shit.
It'd be in a plastic sack, not a lying sack. 8-)

You could at least tell us what caliber shit you bought, HH?
I'm sure hopin it was above silly millimeter caliber?
If'n it ain't, keep it to yerself....cuz, I'll be giving you some
shit too. ;)

Ok, in US terms it's a .264....

HH
Been meaning to ask ya...
Ya got that old Italian rifle sighted in yet?

Re: Love this story.

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:19 pm
by HappyHappy
6.5x55....

HH

Re: Love this story.

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:40 pm
by Pudfark
I was thinking...carcano. ;)

Not Swiss...though, if'n ya got a surplus semi-auto, that'd be pretty sporty. :)

Re: Love this story.

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 12:41 pm
by HappyHappy
Swedish M94. Carl Gustafs 1906
I was searching for a Ljungman M42 but they
are scarce as hen's teeth and I was shocked by the prices they are bringing.
I owned one 30 years ago and I loved it. The Ljungman is nearly immune to a scope mount
and so I sold it for around $300 not remembering the exact price.
They are now bringing $600 to $4,000 depending on condition. $600 buys you junk.

HH

Re: Love this story.

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:20 pm
by Buzz
Good gun to sporterize for hunting. Unless you're military snob.

Re: Love this story.

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:30 pm
by HappyHappy
Buzz wrote:Good gun to sporterize for hunting. Unless you're military snob.
They are short, light and accurate. I am not a military snob.
It will get a 2-7 power scope and stay in the original stock with a nice
thick recoil pad!
The light weight and power of the 6.5x55 makes these rifles a shoulder wrecker.
This is my third Swedish Mauser and second M1894.
In my experiance the sweed is over kill for most North American game animals.

HH

Re: Love this story.

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 5:00 pm
by Buzz
One of the things that make it popular is the light recoil. Sort of like a 30-30. Not sure it overkill, but more on the light side for elk. Wouldn't try it on big bear either.


Here, check the recoil compared to a 300 mag. Even a 30-06 is more of a kicker. It's a nice cartridge though. Shoots pretty flat, and it ha s good penetration. (long small diameter bullet)

Re: Love this story.

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:51 pm
by HappyHappy
Buzz wrote:One of the things that make it popular is the light recoil. Sort of like a 30-30. Not sure it overkill, but more on the light side for elk. Wouldn't try it on big bear either.


Here, check the recoil compared to a 300 mag. Even a 30-06 is more of a kicker. It's a nice cartridge though. Shoots pretty flat, and it ha s good penetration. (long small diameter bullet)
The MUCH longer M1896 (29" + barrel length)is a pea shooter with less felt recoil than an average 30-30.
The M1894 is a 18 inch barrel measured from the breach with a short light stock.

The little M1894 is a wicked little gun to shoot, but I love them.
Remember, recoil is also dependant on the weight of the firearm.

As to power. A bit more powerful than a .257 Roberts or a .243 Win.
Shoots a projectile up to and over 160 grains accurately.
My favorite load is using Hercules Re15 (Alliant Reloader 15 now officially I think) with a 120 grain Sierra flat based spitzer.

I refuse to post the load as every Swede is VERY different and loads should be worked up carefully!!!!!
I have seen them with grove depth ranging from .265 to .268 Pressures will vary widely!
To low a load (starting load in the Sierra handbook) torched a couple of cases because
of my M1896 having a large grove depth and developed inadequate pressure to seal properly.

My favorite load netted 2600 fps out of the 18" barrel and 3060 fps out of the 29.5" M1896 25 feet from the muzzle. Bullet rotating speed is 267,428 with a 1:7 twist as 2600fps and 244,800 at 3060 with a 9" twist!
Got to wonder how they stay together!
Typcal .30 cal (.30-06) is 10" twist. That is also an astromical spin speed of 216,000 at 3,000 fps.

The rifling twist is 1:7 to 1:7.5 depending on whom manufactured it and what year it was made.
I checked my M1896 at 1:9 twist. This may vary barrel to barrel.
The Swedes were not as consistant as US Springfields but that did not seem to hurt them.

Swedish Mausers were designed with long range and 160 gr bullets in mind.
I had some Barns bullets at 200 gr from many years back (mid 60's I think) that shot great
with IMR4831 Load was from P.O.Ackly's "Handbook for Shooters and Reloaders".
I never shot these things at 1,000 yards, but supposedly they are very accurate to that distance
with the 160+ weight bullets.

Norma factory loads with Coppernickle bullets are loaded to high pressures and flattened the primers in my first M1894.

I would feel a little under gunned for a big bear hunt, but these things drop a Whitetail
like you pulled the rug out!

HH