A Complete Waste of Space

ruggbutt wrote:

callmeslick wrote: it will finally force the sensible Republicans, traditional Republicans, into forming a coalition with the moderate Dems

I agree with you there. However, your boy Biden ain't sensible nor is he moderate. I know him too. Next time you talk to him mention my nickname. I told him the whole backstory behind it.

I'm sure Joe had a good laugh. Of late, my exchanges with him were over the fact that the nation elected him, and Obama, not the Democrats in Congress. IMHO, they made a huge mistake by letting Congress set the agenda and details.

Of late, my exchanges with him were over the fact that the nation elected him, and Obama, not the Democrats in Congress. IMHO, they made a huge mistake by letting Congress set the agenda and details

Maybe they have made a mistake with this particular Congress.

I hope you aren't suggesting that the Constitution be trashed as Barry has been doing.

It's obvious the will of the people means nothing to the present turds. Or else we would NOT have a health care fuck up as we have in the making.

However, when you get down to it, the nation elected the Congress as well. So far it has worked pretty as designed as far as elections go.

I'm sure the "progressives" will argue that the POTUS should be a strong leader. I would argue that his job is to be the head janitor and keep things cleaned up that THE PEOPLE tell him to via the REPRESENTATIVE government that has worked fairly well until recently. The "recently" of which I speak would be the last 20 years you made mention of.

Wullie wrote: Maybe they have made a mistake with this particular Congress.

that's exactly what I meant.

I hope you aren't suggesting that the Constitution be trashed as Barry has been doing.

neither I nor they suggest any such thing. Where do you get this stupid garbage?

It's obvious the will of the people means nothing to the present turds. Or else we would NOT have a health care fuck up as we have in the making.

agreed. Where we will probably differ is that 60% of the people wanted them to extend Medicare to all.

However, when you get down to it, the nation elected the Congress as well. So far it has worked pretty as designed as far as elections go.

not a problem with that. My point was this: at the point of Jan 2009, Obama/Biden had a 70% support
level. Both GOP and Dem congresspeople had something around 20%. The election showed an electorate that
wanted immediate and decisive change. What Obama's team did was say, we're putting the House and Senate Dems in charge of designing the nature and agenda for change. Big mistake.

I'm sure the "progressives" will argue that the POTUS should be a strong leader. I would argue that his job is to be the head janitor and keep things cleaned up that THE PEOPLE tell him to via the REPRESENTATIVE government that has worked fairly well until recently. The "recently" of which I speak would be the last 20 years you made mention of.

actually, most of the 'progressives' I talk to DON'T want strong Presidents any more than anyone else. They merely want a Federal government that accepts the premise that it can be the unifying force for creating a just society for all the people. Face it, in the post-industrial era, the times when things worked best for the most people in our nation, we had strong economic regulations, a high-end tax bracket of over 60% and an executive branch willing to actually prosecute corporate fraud. I'm talking about the later part of the Eisenhower and into the Kennedy/Johnson administrations, by the way.
For what it's worth, the extreme liberals I know tend to support, essentially, something akin to anarchy. Which is sort of funny, as that is what the end result of the Tea Party movement would get you.

Slick wrote:For what it's worth, the extreme liberals I know tend to support, essentially, something akin to anarchy. Which is sort of funny, as that is what the end result of the Tea Party movement would get you.

Slick, take a laxative and clear your mind....How exactly does a group wanting minimal government, lower taxes and respects the rights of citizens to be armed, result in anarchy?

Old Pudfark sez: " Slick, you were on a roll, until you blew your nose.... "

Where do you get this stupid garbage?

From your post.

They merely want a Federal government that accepts the premise that it can be the unifying force for creating a just society for all the people.

Including those that don't want to work? Read again what you posted, I see SOCIALISM all through it.

the extreme liberals I know tend to support, essentially, something akin to anarchy

Anarchy lite? How does that work? Taunt each other, or have your hired help take care of your dirty work, mow your lawn, and do your laundry?

Anarchy lite? Now that's funny right there....A little dose of "Tea Party" Anarchy Lite is coming this fall.....no doubt, the lib's may coin that word to describe the aftermath at the polls.....

Old Pudfark sez: " It seems like the Dem's are arming themselves with squirt guns.......to put out a forest fire.... "

Pudfark wrote: Slick, take a laxative and clear your mind....How exactly does a group wanting minimal government, lower taxes and respects the rights of citizens to be armed, result in anarchy?

come on, folks....I'm leaving this one open to someone else to answer. It's too easy, and I don't ski on the bunny slopes anymore.

It's because in Callmesick's world, a free man with a gun is a threat.
A successful dictatorship of the proletariat requires a submissive
population and the forced submission of the few whom resist.
Any group wanting minimal government, lower taxes and respects
the rights of citizens to be armed, result in the erosion of authority
of the totalitarian regime.

In short, that's why Democrats love strict gun controls.

HH

HH,

It is the LIBTARDS both Democrat AND Republican that wish to see us disarmed.

Anybody here have an idea of how many folks have signed up for the "Liberal Militia" ???

Anybody here have an idea of how many folks have signed up for the "Tea Party Militia" ???

R_D, Slick's calling for help on this one...