getting serious about the National Debt.

[Pudfark]

Slick, if you ever have the chance to meet Wullie.....you'd give him a hug....though, I settled for a handshake....

I will also say, that Wullie ain't the kind of guy, to give you a "wet willie".....

you have no idea how often one wishes that such an individual was within arm's reach of you, Pud......

Normally, I would let a remark like that slide....Word up on that Slick, more than several have tried.....all of them regretted it, or their families did.
Anything, that I choose to do now, is without the constraints imposed on me then....so, arm's reach, ain't in play anymore.

You really oughta consider giving Wullie a hug....I regret the missed opportunity....He is a good guy and "smarter than the average bear."

[Wullie]

you have no idea how often one wishes that such an individual was within arm's reach of you, Pud......

Want a hug?

now that's just creepy.

Thought you wanted to give ol Pud a hug.. Damn!! I was gonna sell tickets to that event.

Try givin me a hug and you'll be wearing your ass for a hat except it'll fit further down below your ears than it already does.

As for Pudfark? He's way smarter than you and your canuckistani and eurotard contingent of left turned sycophants think, and he's damn sure for real.

[callmeslick]

Exactly how does a bill that's supposed to give universal health care to all manage to have a clause in it that forces me to 1099 anyone and everyone I do business with?

politics, I figure.......that's what happens when you turn Congress loose on a big job.

[callmeslick]

Thought you wanted to give ol Pud a hug.. Damn!! I was gonna sell tickets to that event.

Try givin me a hug and you'll be wearing your ass for a hat except it'll fit further down below your ears than it already does.

As for Pudfark? He's way smarter than you and your canuckistani and eurotard contingent of left turned sycophants think, and he's damn sure for real.

you Tejas guys are a hoot.

Oh, and Pud would merely have to be capable of walking without drooling on himself to soar past my expectations some days.

[callmeslick]

Slick, if you ever have the chance to meet Wullie.....you'd give him a hug....though, I settled for a handshake....

I will also say, that Wullie ain't the kind of guy, to give you a "wet willie".....

I'd probably go the handshake route myself, thanks. The second part is creepy, once again.

Now, let's move back to the topic at hand. I notice, once again(this might be the fourth time I've lobbed this topic out since 2004), that NO ONE who identifies as 'conservative' has a real suggestion as to how to cope with the deficit. Now Pud tossed some words out there, be no specifics. I don't ask for line for line, but general ideas of which programs, cut by how much would be nice. You see, whining about taxes, big government and how the Liberals, Dems and such fucked everything up is just fine and dandy, but what would you suggest doing that will overcome a 1.3 Trillion per year deficit? If you don't have a plan, or support a plan, maybe it's time to stop bitching, STFU and let the adults continue the conversation.

[callmeslick]

still zero suggestions as to how to eliminate the deficit and pay down the debt? Wow. I thought this was what the last election was all about, at it's core.........

[Wullie]

Doesn't sound like your chosen ones have been too worried about things like the national debt either. At least according to my congressperson Kay.

Dear Friend,

I have been warning you for weeks about what could happen during the Lame Duck Congress, which started on Monday. Because the House of Representatives could not pass a single appropriations bill for the current fiscal year, Congress passed what is known as a Continuing Resolution to temporarily fund the government at the most basic levels. However, we have yet to vote on a spending bill that would responsibly fund our government.

Instead, this week we have been naming post offices in Eureka, California, recognizing the 500th anniversary of the birth of an Italian architect, and commending Bob Sheppard for his career as a public announcer for the New York Yankees. This is a bad use of our time. We are now facing the prospect of passing another Continuing Resolution to ensure the government does not shut down.

I have joined my colleagues in supporting legislation that will begin to rein in the federal government’s reckless spending by reducing all non-security, discretionary spending to 2008 levels. This is not the final solution but it is a start that will save our country over $100 billion.

I will continue to fight for a more fiscally responsible Congress, and continue to keep you informed as this lame duck session progresses in Washington.

Sincerely,



Kay Granger

She knows me as friend..

[callmeslick]

when you next see your friend Kay, ask her this, Wullie: How will putting discretionary spending back at 2008 levels do anything? I mean, it's nice and symbolic, but what does a 3/4% reduction in Federal Spending really accomplish. The task at hand is rectifying a 20%-plus shortfall in revenues.

As to the lame-duck Congress, much won't get done. Too much posturing by the GOP, too little motivation by the Dems. It's a shame. They should, at least, pass the nuke treaty with Russia(NO excuse why not, but the Reps want to do everything to keep Obama from acheivement, how patriotic!), and at least waive the AMT from kicking in on the middle class for another year. I can see now that what will get done with the Great Bush Giveaway is to extend it for a couple years and kick that problem down the line. I note that Warren Buffet today joined a group of a few hundred millionaires calling for a drastic tax increase on those making over $1 million per year.

[Wullie]

[callmeslick]

David Brooks see where the problem lies....you all simply illustrate it(have no fear, I go elsewhere to read those on the far left illustrate it, as well):

"For centuries, American politicians did not run up huge peacetime debts. It wasn’t because they were unpartisan or smarter or more virtuous. It was because they were constrained by a mentality inherited from the founders. According to this mentality, a big successful nation exists in a state of equilibrium between its many factions. This equilibrium is fragile because we are flawed and fallen creatures and can’t quite trust ourselves. So all of us, but especially members of the leadership class, should practice self-restraint. Moral anxiety restrained hubris (don’t think your side possesses the whole truth) and self-indulgence (debt corrupts character).

This ethos has dissolved, on left and right. The new mentality sees the country not as an equilibrium, but as a battlefield in which the people, who are pure and virtuous, do battle against the interests or the elites, who stand in the way of the people’s happiness.

The ideal leader in this mental system is free from moral anxiety but full of passionate intensity. This leader pushes his troops in lock step before the voracious foe. Each party has its own version of whom the evil elites are, but both feel they’ve more to fear from their enemies than from their own sinfulness.

Compromise is thus impossible. Money matters should be negotiable, but how can one compromise with opponents who are the source of all corruption?

I meet many members of Congress who had hoped to serve under that first ethos but now find themselves living within the second. The good news is an ethos can change: a financial shock, a popular movement, something unexpected. Just don’t expect the big change to emanate from Washington in the near term."