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Re: Gunman Critically Wounds Rep. Giffords, Kills Federal Ju

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:25 pm
by Reservoir_Dog
HappyHappy wrote:"A high school friend of Loughner, Caitie Parker, has given a detailed account of his personality and background on her Twitter page over the past few days.
Any word on what Parker's politics are?
Is she a liberal? A centrist? A republican? Pudfark's siamese twin? Just out for the attention? Looking for a book deal?
Any word on that?

Re: Gunman Critically Wounds Rep. Giffords, Kills Federal Ju

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:40 pm
by callmeslick
something that strikes me about this is all is the similarities to both the crazed Islamic doctor who shot up Fort Hood, and the kid that went ballistic at Virginia tech. In all cases, the shooters had clearly demonstrated mental instability for a while before the point at which they walked into a gun shop, armed themselves and became able to inflict their level of crazy on innocents. Now, I'm not advocating here for gun control, per se, just some freaking commonsense regulation over demonstrably unstable individuals getting firearms and ammo.
And, yes, I know that is far easier said than done, but in all three examples, the shooters were clearly disturbed and had been for some time. Yet, right before their final rampages, they could go out and buy guns.
That is so far from any intent of the 2nd amendment as to seem to be avoidable......

Re: Gunman Critically Wounds Rep. Giffords, Kills Federal Ju

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:29 pm
by Pudfark
Flash fer the dummies....

This incident has nothing to do with the Second Amendment.

Seems like a whole crap load of folks knew this guy was a nut job, to include his parents that he lived with.....
Not a damn one of them did anything about it....

What could they do?
What help or care was available?
Who was going to pay for it?

One of my fields of expertise in my old occupation was "dealing" with Mentally Ill folks.
I was trained, educated and certified to do it. Which, is why I so like, R_D. ;)

The #1 problem with mental health care is the lack of it. Adequate facilities and professionals do not exist.
Not to mention the criminal lack of funding.

Further, the only way to "commit" a person involuntarily, is to prove that they are a danger to themselves or another.
Lacking that particular proof, entails a lengthy court procedure to get them commited and it takes lots of time.

That, by the way, folks, is the "Proximate Cause" of the incident in Arizona. Until the law and procedures ares changed, not only there, but
elsewhere as well? The danger exists for all, everywhere.