Wullie?

[Pudfark]

Here is the actual information from the Health Care Bill...that I read...

Subtitle F—Shared Responsibility for Health Care
Part I – Individual Responsibility
Sec. 1501. Requirement to maintain minimum essential coverage. Contains findings of
Congress related to the individual responsibility requirement, which are amended by Section
10106.
Sec. 5000A. Requirement to maintain minimum essential coverage. Requires individuals
to maintain minimum essential coverage beginning in 2014. As amended by Section 10106,
Failure to maintain coverage will result in a penalty of the greater of $95 in 2014, $495 in
2015 and $750 in 2016, or up to two percent of income by 2016, up to a cap of the national
average bronze plan premium. Families will pay half the amount for children up to a cap of
$2,250 for the entire family. After 2016, dollar amounts will increase by the annual cost of
living adjustment. Exceptions to the individual responsibility requirement to maintain
minimum essential coverage are made for religious objectors, individuals not lawfully
present, and incarcerated individuals. Exemptions from the penalty will be made for those
who cannot afford coverage, taxpayers with income under 100 percent of poverty, members
of Indian tribes, those who have received a hardship waiver and those who were not covered
for a period of less than three months during the year.
Sec. 1502. Reporting of health insurance coverage. Amends the Internal Revenue Code to
require the reporting of health insurance coverage.
Sec. 6055. Reporting of health insurance coverage. Requires every person that provides
coverage to report certain information about the coverage to the IRS


There ya go......Slick.....that's where I got it from....

[callmeslick]

ok, either you are lying or too stupid to read plain writing......from your own link:

The penalty that you plan to refuse to pay is the one that — with a few exceptions, mostly for financial hardship — will be levied on people who don’t have health insurance starting in 2014.

the blue part shows how you are either lying or ignorant about the poor being taxed, and the red shows that your claim that this will happen in the Spring of 2011 is false. Two lies at one shot. Nice job. Because, in case you forgot so quickly, your claim was:

regarding the healthcare bill(back in October):
"Wait till next spring....when the poor and unemployed have to pay the penalty for not having "approved" health insurance"

care to dance a little more for me? It's fun watching you do the flamenco on your own privates.

[callmeslick]

by the way, thanks Pud for illustrating the part I wrote to Wullie about folks lying and swearing to it. My apology to him was sincere and heartfelt, and frankly I feel bad for foolishly lumping Wullie in with fools like yourself. He's always been a bit higher up on the intellectual food chain, and generally shown very good character, and it was wrong of me to assume his lack of response was somehow a show contrary to that past evidence. You, on the other hand, seem to have little or no concept of either 'fact' or 'truth'.

[Pudfark]

Here is the actual information from the Health Care Bill...that I read...

Subtitle F—Shared Responsibility for Health Care
Part I – Individual Responsibility
Sec. 1501. Requirement to maintain minimum essential coverage. Contains findings of
Congress related to the individual responsibility requirement, which are amended by Section
10106.
Sec. 5000A. Requirement to maintain minimum essential coverage. Requires individuals
to maintain minimum essential coverage beginning in 2014. As amended by Section 10106,
Failure to maintain coverage will result in a penalty of the greater of $95 in 2014, $495 in
2015 and $750 in 2016, or up to two percent of income by 2016, up to a cap of the national
average bronze plan premium. Families will pay half the amount for children up to a cap of
$2,250 for the entire family. After 2016, dollar amounts will increase by the annual cost of
living adjustment. Exceptions to the individual responsibility requirement to maintain
minimum essential coverage are made for religious objectors, individuals not lawfully
present, and incarcerated individuals. Exemptions from the penalty will be made for those
who cannot afford coverage, taxpayers with income under 100 percent of poverty, members
of Indian tribes, those who have received a hardship waiver and those who were not covered
for a period of less than three months during the year.
Sec. 1502. Reporting of health insurance coverage. Amends the Internal Revenue Code to
require the reporting of health insurance coverage.
Sec. 6055. Reporting of health insurance coverage. Requires every person that provides
coverage to report certain information about the coverage to the IRS


There ya go......Slick.....that's where I got it from....

You probably didn't have time to read this....I won't hold that against you...further I read, that a single person making less than $9,000.00 and something was considered poor, them making above that little dab...was considered taxable...the amount is a little higher if you have dependents......

Whose been swearing about this "stuff"? I think your rhetoric is getting away from your true self...yer kinda excite able...

[Wullie]

Well, my fucking BC/BS costs went up $60 a month this year. They cited the NEW healthcare legislation as their excuse. I have no idea whether or not they are lying. I suspect a bit of both.

Several Dr "consortiums" opted out of BC/Bullshit here in TX as well, including that factory that my wife goes to that calls itself a Dr's Office.

A coworker of mine lost his insurance on his two granddaughters that he is raising BECAUSE he is not the "legal guardian". Their mother ( his daughter) is an addled crack whore incapable of raising kids.

Thanks ObullshitCare.

As far as Pud goes, I've met him. He's the real deal and NOT some phony personae on the inter-web. You grossly underestimate that man. Your mistake.

[Pudfark]

by the way, thanks Pud for illustrating the part I wrote to Wullie about folks lying and swearing to it. My apology to him was sincere and heartfelt, and frankly I feel bad for foolishly lumping Wullie in with fools like yourself. He's always been a bit higher up on the intellectual food chain, and generally shown very good character, and it was wrong of me to assume his lack of response was somehow a show contrary to that past evidence. You, on the other hand, seem to have little or no concept of either 'fact' or 'truth'.

Ya got the "foolishly lumping" part down real good...nice to know how ya treat the folks you say that you respect....I accept your apology to Wullie.

Not to worry Slick....I don't require an apology from you....just sharing our time and space here at ACWOS is enough for me.....

Old Pudfark sez: " I forgive you.... "

[Pudfark]

Aw Shucks Wullie....ya got me blushing... However, TY

[Pudfark]

Yawn......fix'n to hit the sack...night all....see ya in the morning....

[callmeslick]

Well, my fucking BC/BS costs went up $60 a month this year. They cited the NEW healthcare legislation as their excuse. I have no idea whether or not they are lying. I suspect a bit of both.

I suspect you are right, given that my coverage is also with the 'blues' and only went up $16/mo, the least
rise in about a decade.

A coworker of mine lost his insurance on his two granddaughters that he is raising BECAUSE he is not the "legal guardian". Their mother ( his daughter) is an addled crack whore incapable of raising kids.

Thanks ObullshitCare.

healthcare bill doesn't deal with that part, at all, that I'm aware of. That is on the insurer. However, it is a fine example of why I have been a supporter of straight-up national health insurance for all.

As far as Pud goes, I've met him. He's the real deal and NOT some phony personae on the inter-web. You grossly underestimate that man. Your mistake.

you are probably correct, but what one is left to judge by here is his written words. Those words show someone either unwilling or unable to grasp the truth in plain English. The whys and hows of that problem are a matter of guesswork to anyone else.

[Dawg]

Good for you Slick, you caught someone being wrong. Now maybe you should go back over 6 years of posts and admit to the rest of us how you were wrong with most of those. Until then STFU dickweed. Cuz you're a hypocrite.

FAT fucking chance of that happening...Slicks hypocrisy and lies are still legendary - you know there are STILL, 8 years later, a couple of forums where its an inside joke to say "nice move slick", and they are of course talking about our own assclown