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Re: "Thumpers" and "Bumpers"

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 9:12 am
by CUDA
callmeslick wrote:
CUDA wrote:“At that moment, when the the DNA/RNA system became understood, the debate between Evolutionists and Creationists should have come to a screeching halt. …the implications of the DNA/RNA were obvious and clear. Mathematically speaking, based on probability concepts, there is no possibility that Evolution was the mechanism that created the approximately 6,000,000 species of plants and animals we recognize today.” hahaha what a load of BS.
please provide your evidence that this is a load of BS

bear in mind I'm not sure if it's factual or not. but you seem positive it is, so I'd like to see your evidence to such

not claiming any theory to be fact, what I am strongly disputing is the assertion I highlighted above.
Actually, it is quite mathematically probable.
I have no problem with anyone questioning his assertion. I have a problem with Nic calling it a load of BS (or a lie) without even attempting to justify his own claims. that's where my problem lies. same with HH he doesn't believe in God, FINE that's his choice, but in the process of his not believing he chooses to mock those that do believe which is childish and then when he cannot convince us he's right, he runs off hiding behind his supposed Ignore option crying that the big bad Christians are being mean to me so I don't want to talk to them anymore. :roll: and then he also claims that he can produce scientific facts disputing God's existence (a known Lie)
He ASSUMES that I don't believe in evolution which is ignorant at best, because I have stated multiple times that I do.
But I find there there are enough holes in "creation" to have allowed me to ask questions about it's accuracy, and I have also found there there is enough circumstantial evidence and life experiences to support and to prove to me the existence of God. so I choose to believe. a person CAN do both.

we can agree to disagree on things, that is what debate is all about, stay Civil and I will respect you and do the same. do not lie to me or I will call you on it. and at least make some attempt to back up your claim with facts and links.


Edit: I said creation. don't want to confuse HH any further. I meant evolutionary origins of life

Re: "Thumpers" and "Bumpers"

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:02 am
by Buzz
CUDA wrote:
callmeslick wrote:
CUDA wrote:“At that moment, when the the DNA/RNA system became understood, the debate between Evolutionists and Creationists should have come to a screeching halt. …the implications of the DNA/RNA were obvious and clear. Mathematically speaking, based on probability concepts, there is no possibility that Evolution was the mechanism that created the approximately 6,000,000 species of plants and animals we recognize today.” hahaha what a load of BS.
please provide your evidence that this is a load of BS

bear in mind I'm not sure if it's factual or not. but you seem positive it is, so I'd like to see your evidence to such

not claiming any theory to be fact, what I am strongly disputing is the assertion I highlighted above.
Actually, it is quite mathematically probable.
I have no problem with anyone questioning his assertion. I have a problem with Nic calling it a load of BS (or a lie) without even attempting to justify his own claims. that's where my problem lies. same with HH he doesn't believe in God, FINE that's his choice, but in the process of his not believing he chooses to mock those that do believe which is childish and then when he cannot convince us he's right, he runs off hiding behind his supposed Ignore option crying that the big bad Christians are being mean to me so I don't want to talk to them anymore. :roll: and then he also claims that he can produce scientific facts disputing God's existence (a known Lie)
He ASSUMES that I don't believe in evolution which is ignorant at best, because I have stated multiple times that I do.
But I find there there are enough holes in "creation" to have allowed me to ask questions about it's accuracy, and I have also found there there is enough circumstantial evidence and life experiences to support and to prove to me the existence of God. so I choose to believe. a person CAN do both.

we can agree to disagree on things, that is what debate is all about, stay Civil and I will respect you and do the same. do not lie to me or I will call you on it. and at least make some attempt to back up your claim with facts and links.
Good post Cuda. I'm quoting you so HH has no excuse for saying he didn't see it.

Oh wait! I'm on imaginary ignore too.

People who really put someone on ignore. Don't need to tell anybody.

HH can't face the fact that there is a God. Just like he can't face us. It's too easy to believe in evolution.

I told myself I wouldn't get involved with another thread like this, and i'm pissed that I let it happen again.

It won't ever happen again. I'm gone.

Re: "Thumpers" and "Bumpers"

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:08 am
by nicolas10
Oh noes buzz has run away :D

Must be a merrickan thing.

Re: "Thumpers" and "Bumpers"

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:26 am
by HappyHappy
nicolas10 wrote:Oh noes buzz has run away :D

Must be a merrickan thing.

This ignore feature is a wonderful thing.
I see the ignore as digital air freshener.

HH

Re: "Thumpers" and "Bumpers"

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:27 am
by nicolas10
How many things occur that have almost zero probability of happening? It's not by pulling out of their hats numbers that are not really conceivable by the average joe that an even more stupid theory is more likely.

1 chance in x bazillions means exactly that: THERE IS A CHANCE OF IT HAPPENING, and as a matter of fact it dit.

Look how many people believe in scientology despite the fact that it was created only in 1952, by a fucking science fiction writer who even openly claimed that he wanted power he would just create a religion, clamed bogus dimplomas and so on and on. Despite all this some people are stupid enough to believe in it. What are the odds, seriously?

So imagine a similar scam, only 2000 year old and in which people are raised from their birth. A scam which was so popular at one time because of little things like christians being exempted from military service in the roman legions, or because an improved role of women in the society.

There are many reasons why christianity spread as it did, most of which had to do with power and greed, and none of which had anything to do with some god actually existing.

Nic

Re: "Thumpers" and "Bumpers"

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:27 am
by CUDA
nicolas10 wrote:Oh noes buzz has run away :D

Must be a merrickan thing.
ya one we learned from the French :D

Re: "Thumpers" and "Bumpers"

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:37 am
by CUDA
nicolas10 wrote:There are many reasons why christianity spread as it did, most of which had to do with power and greed, and none of which had anything to do with some god actually existing.

Nic
and of course you have the facts to back up this assumption right?
because if it's true I'm sure that there had to have been some scientific study done somewhere right.

Re: "Thumpers" and "Bumpers"

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:50 am
by Buzz
nicolas10 wrote:How many things occur that have almost zero probability of happening? It's not by pulling out of their hats numbers that are not really conceivable by the average joe that an even more stupid theory is more likely.

1 chance in x bazillions means exactly that: THERE IS A CHANCE OF IT HAPPENING, and as a matter of fact it dit.

Look how many people believe in scientology despite the fact that it was created only in 1952, by a fucking science fiction writer who even openly claimed that he wanted power he would just create a religion, clamed bogus dimplomas and so on and on. Despite all this some people are stupid enough to believe in it. What are the odds, seriously?

So imagine a similar scam, only 2000 year old and in which people are raised from their birth. A scam which was so popular at one time because of little things like christians being exempted from military service in the roman legions, or because an improved role of women in the society.

There are many reasons why christianity spread as it did, most of which had to do with power and greed, and none of which had anything to do with some god actually existing.

Nic
I have to respond to this.

You seem to believe in odds. The odds that the Bible is correct, and not some plot. Are much greater than the odds of evolution being all there is to life as we know it now.

Why are you picking the bad odds?

What evidence do you have that the Bible isn't true? Don't you think all the brilliant people who have tried to show the Bible as false would have done it by now. How can you get past that? Why do you think you know what they don't? Have you even tried? Have you studied the Bible to see what it's all about?

I know HH hasn't. he's never even read it. In past threads he showed he doesn't know the difference between the Old and New Testament. It's too easy to put down something you know nothing about. Is that you too?

HH loves to put down people and their choices. Whether it's religion, or politics. He's a small minded person with no balls. You picked some good company to agree with.

Re: "Thumpers" and "Bumpers"

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:05 pm
by nicolas10
CUDA wrote:
nicolas10 wrote:There are many reasons why christianity spread as it did, most of which had to do with power and greed, and none of which had anything to do with some god actually existing.

Nic
and of course you have the facts to back up this assumption right?
because if it's true I'm sure that there had to have been some scientific study done somewhere right.
Christians were exempted from serving in the roman legions. Talk about an incentive to become a christian uh? But no people suddenly started to believe because they saw the light :roll:

Nic

Re: "Thumpers" and "Bumpers"

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:08 pm
by CUDA
nicolas10 wrote:
CUDA wrote:
nicolas10 wrote:There are many reasons why christianity spread as it did, most of which had to do with power and greed, and none of which had anything to do with some god actually existing.

Nic
and of course you have the facts to back up this assumption right?
because if it's true I'm sure that there had to have been some scientific study done somewhere right.
Christians were exempted from serving in the roman legions. Talk about an incentive to become a christian uh? But no people suddenly started to believe because they saw the light :roll:

Nic
evidence?