A Complete Waste of Space

Very few people can keep someone on ignore. It takes character. That leaves out HH.

I find it a lot of fun insulting him knowing he has to suck it up and not respond, because of his imaginary ignore.

Buzz wrote:Very few people can keep someone on ignore. It takes character. That leaves out HH.

I find it a lot of fun insulting him knowing he has to suck it up and not respond, because of his imaginary ignore.

LOL !!! YA there is a certain sense of satisfaction in that isn't there
because if he does respond he shows himself to be a liar

that must just REALLY piss him off. damned if he does. damned if he doesn't

Sorta boils down to this for me.....

Religion requires something from folks...

Atheism has no requirements...

I consider both groups as believers of some sort.....
The first believes in everybody and everything...
The second? Believes only in themselves.

Even, Buzz can figure out which group I prefer.

Soapy wrote:No personal attack from me mate, just a suggestion.

Good I'd hate it if we didn't manage to sort out our points of divergence through civil discussions. Some people I don't mind but with you it would bother me.

In fact in the wider scheme of things, it's amazing how close in ideology the opposing thought systems are. Both in the Middle East, and the Radical West. You'd think that they might somehow just be behaving in the same way, and with the same imperatives, a bit like opposing political groups, for the same aims in the end. Or am I just being thick?

Radical this & that are not your average christian or your average muslim; buddhist, you name it, who go on with their life pretty much the same way in any place of the world you can think of. Most salafist organisations are financed by quatar, which isn't even a real state, but a few dudes that have been placed there by the brits/US to control the oil, and trained by nato (at least in the case of Syria & Libya). They do NOT represent muslims any more than zionists would represent jews. As a matter of fact, a zionist CANNOT be a jew, because real jews believe that the jewish people will be given the land of Israel ONLY AFTER their messiah has returned. And I don't think I've heard anywhere that the jewish messiah has return as of yet.

All those radical organisations are political tools, and you can't judge a religion by them.

Nic, you don't believe in God, but you posted earlier about

I don't believe in God but I'm strongly catholic... go figure

Which suggested, twice, using "our" that you believed in God, or at least supported the view of people who do. If not why are you using believers as a point in your argument?

You are not born without a past.

As to non believers having their own dogma, yup I have that same point of view to an extent, i.e. some atheists and such tend to follow science, or Yoda, or some other stuff the same way as some people follow religion. I have major issues with them too. But this discussion is not about them, it is about a clever man like you, falling for the oldest bullshit in history ( which does repeat itself continually and without us learning from it ) and that makes me pretty sad.

I would like you to point me what bullshit I have led credence to and why exactly it is bullshit. Or is it bullshit because by your own dogma it's bullshit and that needs no discussion whatsoever?

The fact that HH actually posted some sense earlier on in this thread, which is possibly the most intelligent thing he will ever post, and you seem to be less able to see that. It's a bit disheartening for me. But hey ho, life goes on

I remember once he agreend with me, which was probably more clever than the post you are talking about :p

Nic

HappyHappy wrote: As a devout Atheist I an certain that there is no god, and never was.
I think you are confusing religion with what is a belief system of sorts.
True Atheists have no religion, no god, no myths to give false hopes.
But to say that true believers in the truth (Atheists), that there is no god, have a religious
belief is utter nonsense.

I look out at the sky and see no god. I ask people whom believe to
show me the object of their belief system and all they have is an old book to show.

Atheism is not religion, it is belief in truth over the Santaclaus myth for adults.

I have my belief. It is in no way religious. We are the product of 4,500,000,000
years of evolution. This is the truth.

HH

You've answered your own bs in your very first words:

To quote you again:

As a devout Atheist

Heck you even wrote Atheist with a cap

LOL nice point Nic. didnt catch that one

Pudfark wrote:Sorta boils down to this for me.....

Religion requires something from folks...

Atheism has no requirements...

I consider both groups as believers of some sort.....
The first believes in everybody and everything...
The second? Believes only in themselves.

Even, Buzz can figure out which group I prefer.

No, I can't figure out anything about you. There must be more than one of you posting.

Soapy let me explain a bit my view about religion and multiculturalism

In short, I believe religion is the cement that keeps a society together in a congruent way.

- If you have no religion, your society will soon become something like the worst of socialism mixed with the worst of liberalism.
- If you mix several religions, you prevent religion from being able to work as intended to cement the society.

Some religions, like catholicism, prone that every human being can become a good christian, and that you can only decide by your own actions. Other religions, like judaism for instance, claim that you have a chosen people, and the reste of the world. People won't treat other jews or gentiles in the same fashion. For instance mixed mariages not being allowed in Israel.

I will take one very simple example: the example of abortion in France, even discounting the muslim factor.
Say in France you have mainly catholics who believe abortion is murder, and atheists who believe it's totally normal. (gross simplification)
The law is that a teenage girl can go to the school doc and ask for abortion and get it free of charge without the parents being even informed.
So say more than half of the population believe that abortion is a murder, and at the same time their own teenage daughter could be advised to abort by a socialist school nurse (90% of the people in the education in france are leftists) without their consent, and without being even informed. You could tell those people that any dumbass school nurse (and there are some very very bad ones) can decide to support their teen to have their grandchildren murdered. Nice!

This is with just two "religions" and on just one example. Imagine when you mix catholics, protestants, muslims, buddhists, pink bastards & people who don't give a fuck...

It just won't work, society will inevitably explode.

Then it brings the question: why are politicians promoting the multicultural model? What is their justification? Why is the world becoming more and more global? Is it really good for us? The only benefit I can think of is cheaper iphones. Is it worth it? And even if we accept multiculturalism as a byproduct of globalisation, why promote it that fiercely instead of just letting it happen naturally? Can't deny that everyone and their mother and slick are promoting it very actively.

Divide ut regnes

Nic

Extremely Profound Nic.

Spot On in accuracy content.

Pudfark wrote:Extremely Profound Nic.

Spot On in accuracy content.

Besides, I used the word congruent