Student Debt vs Graduate Jobs

[Pudfark]

biased piece of claptrap bullshit. Proof? None needed, beyond the simple realization that the vast bulk of a college degree is about HOW to think, not WHAT to think. Also, the development of research skills, state-of-the-art scientific knowledge and high-level language skills, none of which would be affected, even if one gets one's panties in a bunch over supposed political/free speech issues(which, in my opinion are negligible and overblown by folks who fear education).

Yup, like I said above..."Proof" "you".

"HOW to think, not WHAT to think." Forty years ago and before, Yes.
Now...No. Again, you are proof of that. The "how" is yer way exclusively. The "what" is the lies yer serving up. Anybody who balks at that? Ya just yell'm down, call'm names and do all of this publicly. Same shit here, same application. Which is why, I posted that link. No, I didn't expect it to change anything. Then again, my expectations are realistic. Your expectations...belong to somebody else. It's what you were taught. Not what you were taught and personally challenged.

Life ain't an experiment. It sure as hell was not meant to be a "controlled" experiment. Certainly not "controlled" by you. It ain't a lab.

How I do enjoy peeing in yer "petri" dish. When a link won't suffice.

[Pudfark]

Eating lunch...back shortly.

[callmeslick]

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ, same old, same old.

here's a hint....if you don't have a college degree, it might be best to refrain from giving your opinion on what college is, or ought to be.

[Barfly]

"Once again, the idea of social justice should never be seen as liberal or conservative, but is the founding principle of our Constitution and system."

No it isn't. You really are a Marxist, whether you realize or not. Where do you think that concept originated?

[callmeslick]

"Once again, the idea of social justice should never be seen as liberal or conservative, but is the founding principle of our Constitution and system."

No it isn't. You really are a Marxist, whether you realize or not. Where do you think that concept originated?

the words" All Men are Created Equal ", "Right to pursue Happiness" etc, etc, etc. That is social justice, nothing more, nothing less.
Now, mind you, our nation was created by a group of folks who were both very liberal and very radical thinkers, for their age. But nothing about the concept of social justice is Marxist in origin. Marx merely explored different ways to achieve what was by his time thought to be the noble goal of a great nation.

[Barfly]

"Once again, the idea of social justice should never be seen as liberal or conservative, but is the founding principle of our Constitution and system."

No it isn't. You really are a Marxist, whether you realize or not. Where do you think that concept originated?

the words" All Men are Created Equal ", "Right to pursue Happiness" etc, etc, etc. That is social justice, nothing more, nothing less.
Now, mind you, our nation was created by a group of folks who were both very liberal and very radical thinkers, for their age. But nothing about the concept of social justice is Marxist in origin. Marx merely explored different ways to achieve what was by his time thought to be the noble goal of a great nation.

Wrong again. You can't swap "Natural Law" with "Social Justice", and mean the same thing. "Social Justice" is not compatible with principles in the Constitution. Freedom to pursue your life is not the same as government derived measures to force equality.

[Pudfark]

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ, same old, same old.

here's a hint....if you don't have a college degree, it might be best to refrain from giving your opinion on what college is, or ought to be.

Same blather from you. I've been to college. I left, because of idiots like you.
College doesn't make a better person, anymore. Demonstrably provable by your conduct and behavior here. Kids now days have no choice, thanks to you and yours. You, once upon a time had a choice in your education...you made it for yourself, not others. You seek validation of your choice, by imposing it on everyone.

Shame on you.

It is quite apparent to all, you have no morals, honesty, integrity and a complete lack of personal responsibility. You weren't taught that at home and certainly didn't learn it in school.

Though, you did learn to make excuses...really well.

[callmeslick]

Wrong again. You can't swap "Natural Law" with "Social Justice", and mean the same thing. "Social Justice" is not compatible with principles in the Constitution. Freedom to pursue your life is not the same as government derived measures to force equality.

social justice in no way requires or equates to Government involvement. It is reflecting the goal of a society, by any means, not specific to any means.

[callmeslick]

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ, same old, same old.

here's a hint....if you don't have a college degree, it might be best to refrain from giving your opinion on what college is, or ought to be.

Same blather from you. I've been to college. I left, because of idiots like you.
College doesn't make a better person, anymore. Demonstrably provable by your conduct and behavior here. Kids now days have no choice, thanks to you and yours. You, once upon a time had a choice in your education...you made it for yourself, not others. You seek validation of your choice, by imposing it on everyone.

Shame on you.

It is quite apparent to all, you have no morals, honesty, integrity and a complete lack of personal responsibility. You weren't taught that at home and certainly didn't learn it in school.

Though, you did learn to make excuses...really well.

uh, huh.....personal attack when the facts don't back you up. Attaboy!!! Moreover, the point I've been trying to get through your near-impossibly-thick head is this: the economy our grandchildren will grow up in, and in fact, the economy the world shares at present, DICTATES more than minimal education. If you think a person is set for life with the US High School degree, you are clueless. That group of people are doomed to compete with similarly educated people from India, Africa, Eastern Europe, Mexico and everyplace else for the most part, and that's a losing hand. Sure, will a skilled plumber still make money? A farmer? An electrician? Yes, but those jobs are even starting to require higher-technical educational backgrounds. For instance, the guys who rent my farms are regular high-tech mavens with some of their machinery, and are in online contact with weather and investment services all the time, to maximize profit.

[Barfly]

Wrong again. You can't swap "Natural Law" with "Social Justice", and mean the same thing. "Social Justice" is not compatible with principles in the Constitution. Freedom to pursue your life is not the same as government derived measures to force equality.

social justice in no way requires or equates to Government involvement. It is reflecting the goal of a society, by any means, not specific to any means.

It works ONLY with government involvement.