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				Re: Sequestration Frustration
				Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:00 pm
				by callmeslick
				so, when you step away from your spoonfed right-wing fundamental Christian hysteria, you will find there are responsible Palestinians, and, moreover, your government is assisting them, in the commonsense effort to keep them regionally strong and maybe keep a chance for lasting peace alive.
			 
			
					
				Re: Sequestration Frustration
				Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:38 am
				by Pudfark
				This whole thing arab thingy was about 500 million dollars, that needs to be spent here, not there and ya ain't never addressed that.
What would 500 million do for this?
Airports suing FAA over planned control tower shutdowns
Read more: 
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03 ... z2P2AifjCG 
			 
			
					
				Re: Sequestration Frustration
				Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:16 pm
				by CUDA
				callmeslick wrote:so, when you step away from your spoonfed right-wing fundamental Christian hysteria, 
 please enlighten me what my faith has to do with the 
facts of this discussion. you cant because it doesn't. it was just a jack-ass back handed statement and just ANOTHER attempt on your part to stray off topic because you cannot discus the facts of the issue. but keep trying  
 
An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument. Typically, this fallacy involves two steps. First, an attack against the character of person making the claim, his/her circumstances, or his/her actions is made (or the character, circumstances, or actions of the person reporting the claim). Second, this attack is taken to be evidence against the claim or argument the person in question is making (or presenting). This type of "argument" has the following form:
    Person A makes claim X.
    Person B makes an attack on person A.
    Therefore A's claim is false. 
The reason why an Ad Hominem (of any kind) is a fallacy is that the character, circumstances, or actions of a person do not have a bearing on the truth or falsity of the claim being made (or the quality of the argument being made). 
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Sequestration Frustration
				Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:40 pm
				by callmeslick
				still unwilling to address true sequester comparisons, or real-world cut vs spend determinations within departments, I see. Well, CUDA, I'll be here to discuss sequestration when you get off the Obama-hate busload-o-stupid.
			 
			
					
				Re: Sequestration Frustration
				Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:11 pm
				by CUDA
				I see you still haven't explained to me what My faith has to do with the discussion. so just go ahead and keep on with the attack dog path that your taking. all you do it just discredit your own arguments. and I have discussed the sequester with you. and gotten no where. you see you don't discuss. you deflect, dodge, and change the subject, and attack those that disagree with you
and now I'm an Obama Hater.  

 factoid for ya slick. I can disagree with a mans policies without hating him. I know that's a hard concept for you to understand but it is reality
so just since you missed it the first time  
 
An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument. Typically, this fallacy involves two steps. First, an attack against the character of person making the claim, his/her circumstances, or his/her actions is made (or the character, circumstances, or actions of the person reporting the claim). Second, this attack is taken to be evidence against the claim or argument the person in question is making (or presenting). This type of "argument" has the following form:
Person A makes claim X.
Person B makes an attack on person A.
Therefore A's claim is false.
The reason why an Ad Hominem (of any kind) is a fallacy is that the character, circumstances, or actions of a person do not have a bearing on the truth or falsity of the claim being made (or the quality of the argument being made).
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Sequestration Frustration
				Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:11 pm
				by callmeslick
				CUDA wrote:I see you still haven't explained to me what My faith has to do with the discussion. so just go ahead and keep on with the attack dog path that your taking.
well, perhaps I'm wrong, but your arguments against the most moderate group of Palestinians in the mid-east seems to show a certain knee-jerk Israeli bias, not one I haven't seen before from you. I suspect that might be partially(emphasize partially) due to Christian fundamentalism, which you are proud of, and of which I don't discredit, merely suggest it colors your opinions.
 
all you do it just discredit your own arguments. and I have discussed the sequester with you. and gotten no where. you see you don't discuss. you deflect, dodge, and change the subject, and attack those that disagree with you
as I tried to point out, comparing money spent by State with money cut by another department(at various times Secret Service, Interior, etc) isn't discussing the sequester or it's administration. It's selective outrage, with no relation to how the bill is worded.
and now I'm an Obama Hater.  

 factoid for ya slick. I can disagree with a mans policies without hating him. I know that's a hard concept for you to understand but it is reality
sorry, my friend, but you have been a blind Obama hater for years. I have no problem with anyone's policy disagreements, but many of yours veer into blind naysaying for the sake of disrespecting the man and the office. The Benghazi thing is close to that, frankly, and if you'd like me to dig up lots more, I could, although would prefer not to.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Sequestration Frustration
				Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 8:42 pm
				by Pudfark
				Sequester Has 'Eviscerated' Ability To Visit Guantanamo Detainees, Federal Public Defender Says 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/0 ... 94633.html 
			 
			
					
				Re: Sequestration Frustration
				Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:01 pm
				by Pudfark
				callmeslick wrote:still unwilling to address true sequester comparisons, or real-world cut vs spend determinations within departments, I see. Well, CUDA, I'll be here to discuss sequestration when you get off the Obama-hate busload-o-stupid.
Here ya go Slick..."a bus load of stupid" as requested, a back seat if ya will.. 
 
White House throwing star-studded concert despite sequester
Though the White House has been singing the sequester blues, the Obamas still have managed to scrape together enough cash to throw a star-studded concert celebrating "Memphis Soul" later this month.
 
The White House announced Tuesday that the 10th concert in its "In Performance at the White House" series would go on April 16. Set to perform are Al Green, Ben Harper, Queen Latifah, Cyndi Lauper and Justin Timberlake, among many others.
Read more: 
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04 ... z2PQNru2cY 
			 
			
					
				Re: Sequestration Frustration
				Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:45 pm
				by callmeslick
				you're exactly right....a busload of stupid. I note you failed to acknowledge Obama taking a pay cut, voluntarily.
			 
			
					
				Re: Sequestration Frustration
				Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:31 pm
				by Pudfark
				What I note is this:
Obama's Administration "budget" not taking a voluntary 5% cut.
By the way, Thanks to Obama, damn near everybody in this country has taken a 5% or more involuntary budget cut.
How much are you sending the Treasury?