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EVOLUTION THEORY..................................... SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE

Life came from non-living matter. (spontaneous generation)...... Never observed or duplicated in a laboratory

Random processes create life...................... The universe has existed for 30 billion years, during which time all life evolved by random processes. Creating a simple 100 component non-living organism would take 3 billion billion billion billion billion billion billion years. The simplest protein that can be termed "living" has 400 components.


Sexual reproduction came about by evolution............................ Two humans had to evolve at the same time and place, having complementary reproductive systems. If one system wasn't complete or compatible, the species would become extinct.


Species evolve from other species........................ There are no fossils of transitional life forms. Organisms have never been found to cross the boundaries between species.


Mutations are the primary way that new genetic material for evolution................ Greater than 99% of mutations are available defects. No mutant has been observed that has become a different species.


Prove this wrong.


btw Your insults were directed in what I believe in., or don't you think that matters?

bearkiller wrote:EVOLUTION THEORY..................................... SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE

Life came from non-living matter. (spontaneous generation)...... Never observed or duplicated in a laboratory

wrong, it has been done(viral). Also, evolution is not a Theory, it is a given fact. Origin of Species is a Theory.

Random processes create life...................... The universe has existed for 30 billion years, during which time all life evolved by random processes. Creating a simple 100 component non-living organism would take 3 billion billion billion billion billion billion billion years. The simplest protein that can be termed "living" has 400 components.

'life' is defined as having the capacity to reproduce. Your whole knowledge base here is WAY off.

Sexual reproduction came about by evolution............................ Two humans had to evolve at the same time and place, having complementary reproductive systems. If one system wasn't complete or compatible, the species would become extinct.

so many species developed before Homo Sapiens that the above comment is meaningless.

Species evolve from other species........................ There are no fossils of transitional life forms. Organisms have never been found to cross the boundaries between species.

the fossil record has countless examples of such transitions. At least, 9 that I know of between ape and modern man alone.

Mutations are the primary way that new genetic material for evolution................ Greater than 99% of mutations are available defects. No mutant has been observed that has become a different species.

in bacteria, this process has been observable within very small periods. Obviously, such changes in more complex species would only be observable over a longer timeframe. But, to imply that one could not document such, or that it doesn't happen is absurd.

Prove this wrong.

I think I just did.

bearkiller, sorry to get you so hot.
This subject tends to degenerate quickly into people
whom believe in the God Myth using creationist propaganda and slogans.

You believe, and I don't.

You are completely un moved by scientific fact and never will be.

I never made a "decision" on the matter. A combination of an obsession with
science and higher education eliminated the God Myth from contention
as a realistic idea.

The God Myth makes people feel good about life and it's end.
As a species we can not understand a world without observing it.
We may be the first life forms with a clear understanding of death.
Religion is like a drug ("The Opiate of the People") making us passive
and accepting death more easily.

Governments have understood this for many thousands of years. An
Army fighting for God will fight with suicidal devotion. We will get
a free entry into paradise for death in battle with the infidels!

To make it short, bearkiller, you will always believe. The God Myth gives you comfort.
I will never believe, the facts give me comfort.

Callmesick did a good job of an itemized response to your post, so I see no
need for further response.

Have a nice day bearkiller my fellow Great Ape!

HH

Saying i'm wrong isn't proving much.

I don't enjoy proving evolution wrong, because there is evolution. The question is, did evolution create everythng we see around us. Including ourselves. I'm positive the answer is no. Just as postive you believe there's no God.

We will never change each others minds. Why do we try?

What I can't undestand is how you accept evolution so easily.

Do any of you two believe in an evil force? A devil if you will?



Happy...Calling God a myth is probably the biggest insult you could give me. Yet, it doesn't bother you. Nice.

HappyHappy wrote:I never made a "decision" on the matter. HH

dont lie to your self.

you HAVE made a decision and one based on incomplete information. you have based your decision on science and science alone. it's your lack of knowledge of God and your unwillingness to learn and expand your knowledge that will forever condemn you to your ignorance. shame really because creation and science are not contradictory to each other. in fact they complement each other. it's when both sides stay locked inside their proverbial boxes the problems start. its just the ignorant and uninformed like yourself that scream the loudest. why are you afraid to learn???? and why do you ridicule those that you dont understand?? you are the same way with your politics. you spout the dogma of the right and have no idea why you do it. you slam slick constantly and have NEVER once debated the issues with him. sad really. While I dont agree with Slicks stand on most issues. I find it refreshing to intellectually debate an issue with someone that is passionate about his stance. it challenges me to constantly re-evaluate why I think how I think. you sir never make that attempt.

There are two things which cannot be attacked in front: ignorance and narrow-mindedness. They can only be shaken by the simple development of the contrary qualities. They will not bear discussion.

Debating Callmesick is like trying to argue a call at the special olympics.
I dislike arguing with tards and or communists (same thing in my book).

As to the God Myth, if you can tell me which God Myth is the correct one then I might
think about dropping the "Myth" from the phrase.

All religions are cults based on myth.

Science and religion are mutually exclusive.
There is no easy co-existance.

I see the facts and reject all God Myths.

And mr. CUDA, I have rather complete information.
Science is based on tested information.
The God Myth is based on blind faith in a idea, a fantasy.

I see the facts and reject all God Myths.

What I can't undestand is how you accept evolution so easily.

There is a massive amount of data supporting the fact of Evolution.
There is NO data supporting creation.
I do not believe in Evolution, I recognise it as absolute FACT.

HH

HappyHappy wrote:And mr. CUDA, I have rather complete information.
Science is based on tested information.

tested and in many cases unproven information. sounds like your a man of faith

you seem to wish to base you entire stance against Christianity on the creation of the world. what a limited thought process. life and reality are so much deeper than how it was created.

The God Myth is based on blind faith in a idea, a fantasy.

this shows you how little you know about Faith in God. For you see my faith is based on tested information. HRM I think I've heard that somewhere

Malachi 3:10 wrote: Test me in this," says the LORD Almighty, "and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that you will not have room enough for it.

while I understand Buzz's anger on your choice of the term "God Myth" I also understand that many times people will verbally attack that which they do not understand this is typical in playgrounds.

Science investigates religion interprets. Science gives man knowledge which is power religion gives man wisdom which is control.
Martin Luther King, Jr.

HappyHappy wrote:Debating Callmesick is like trying to argue a call at the special olympics.
I dislike arguing with tards
HH

Well I'm sure slick feels the same way. but I'll let he speak for himself.

Happy,

I don't understand why you don't recognize eye witness documents as any kind of proof?


What kind of proof as you looking for?

There are scientists who are Christians. What do you know that they don't?

Show me God and I will give it some thought.

You can not.

But I can show you many fossils of early Humans, millions of years old.

Show me.

Until then, it's a God Myth.

HH