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Out of 3614196 votes

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:54 pm
by Wullie
at least that is what the count was when I viewed and cast my votelet.
http://post.polls.yahoo.com/quiz/quizre ... 46067&wv=1

80% think the world's most beloved, wonderful, and articulate mulatto is doing a shit job as POTUS with the economy.

But then, what do I know. I'm just a gun clinging member of the Vast Right Wing Smear Spreading Jingoistic Conspirators.

Re: Out of 3614196 votes

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:13 pm
by ruggbutt
You just hurt Slick's feelings and he's gonna come here and state that only right wing conservatives use the internet, that's why the votes are "skewed".................

Re: Out of 3614196 votes

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:34 am
by callmeslick
hell no. Slick's going to say, right now, that he doesn't give a shit and focuses on his bottom line.
Obama has been doing just fine.

Re: Out of 3614196 votes

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:07 am
by Soapy
Internet polls are the way of the future :lol:

Re: Out of 3614196 votes

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:28 pm
by CUDA
callmeslick wrote:Obama has been doing just fine.
OH YES he's been doing such a splendid job
As a result, the deficit quadrupled from $459 billion in 2008 to $1.85 trillion this year. It has gone from 3.2% of gross domestic product to 13.1%, twice the post-World War II record of 6% in 1983 under President Reagan. What's more, the debt surge is unlike the one that accompanied WWII in that it will not be temporary.

The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office reckons that the deficit will run for a decade and will still exceed $1.2 trillion in 2019. By that time, the United States will have virtually doubled its national debt, to over $17 trillion. Then, after 2019, we get another turn of the screw as the peak waves of baby boomers move into their retirement years and costs soar for the major entitlements, Social Security and Medicare.

At 41% of GDP in 2008, the accumulated federal debt will rise to 82% by 2019. One out of every six dollars spent then by the feds will go to interest, compared with 1 in 12 dollars last year. These out-year budgets will require an increase in everyone's income taxes, raising federal income taxes an average of $11,000 for families, a hike of 55% per household - a political impossibility. The Government Accountability Office estimates that by 2040, interest payments will absorb 30% of all revenues and entitlements will consume the rest, leaving nothing for defense, education or veterans' pensions
and by the way. this IS the bottom line

Re: Out of 3614196 votes

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:52 pm
by ruggbutt
I wasn't a huge fan of GW, but the best and the brightest the Dems could come up with had the idea to print more money...........

Re: Out of 3614196 votes

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:49 pm
by callmeslick
Look, the situation is simple. Obama has done what he had little choice but to do. Risky? In the long run, not likely. Painful for some, sure. Some serious belt-tightening, at the Federal Level, has to come. Still, a lot of economic issues can, in no way, be controlled or even influenced by the President(or Congress, really). A lot of what folks whine about has been decades in the making: a diminished industrial capacity, aging infrastructure, outsourced skilled labor, expensive healthcare costs.....all this and more didn't arrive here overnight. Further, as Jumo sort of tried to grasp elsewhere, no matter who is in power, the same group of people make out well, and the rest are largely unimportant. To change THAT status quo will take a huge portion of the populace getting so fed up they throw ALL the bums out, both Dem and Republican, and send a unmistakable message. For a short while, I had some hope that this sort of effort might start with that
"Tea Party" movement, but, sadly, it quickly drew in the right wing talk-radio whackos, along with a small dose of 'out with the nigga President' types. Thus, by the time the DC march came about, it was a laughingstock among virtually every sane person I work with(from all sides of politics).

Like I've said, my gut is that Obama has done a reasonable job, having walked into the office in a tough time.
He's done it with a fair amount of grace, a bit of humor, and a clear change in Presidential attitude and aptitude compared to his predecessor. The world clearly seems to appreciate that part. I've never gotten the Obama-worship extreme, any more that I 'get' the Reagan Myths or other, similar, hero worship.
Overall, while not hurtling toward a spot on Mt. Rushmore, Obama is hardly embarassing either himself, or us, as a nation.
However, I do think he has been too willing, in the name of bipartisanship, and probably reflective of his personal nature, to deliberate overly long. He also seems too open to compromise to be able to bring about the change a lot of people expected of him. I think he sincerely thought he could address the inequalities I mentioned above, before a 'throw them all out' moment arrived. The result may well be that the usual folks win out, yet again, at the expense of the overall population. Healthcare is a prime example. Overhaul, even to the tune of single payer(radical socialism ;) )would benefit most of the nation, help most businesses, and would only hurt those heavily invested in Pharma or Insurance. What will be acceptable, to the gracious Obama, will be(I fear) a watered-down piece of crap that accomplishes nothing beyond adding a layer of bureacracy. What Obama needs to do, and fast IMHO, is realize why he got elected, and use the fact that he is roughly 3 times as popular as either Congressional delegation to jam the correct legislation through. Time will tell if he develops that strength or not. 9 months into the term is way too little time to make a final judgement. At least, as I stated before, he hasn't gotten 3400 of our residents killed by being so stupid as to ignore blatant warnings of impending attack.

Re: Out of 3614196 votes

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:59 am
by Dawg
callmeslick wrote:hell no. Slick's going to say, right now, that he doesn't give a shit and focuses on his bottom line.
Obama has been doing just fine.

you been out of country all summer?

Re: Out of 3614196 votes

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:42 pm
by CUDA
The Obama administration on Friday said the government ran a $1.42 trillion deficit in fiscal year 2009.

That made it the worst year on record since World War II, according to data from the Treasury and the White House Office of Management and Budget.

wonderful job

Re: Out of 3614196 votes

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:58 pm
by ruggbutt
Where's Slick and his "Blame it on the previous administration" rhetoric?