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Okay, that's it! I'm moving to the moon!

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:27 am
by Reservoir_Dog

Re: Okay, that's it! I'm moving to the moon!

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:15 am
by Pudfark
Charlotte's Web :ugeek:

Re: Okay, that's it! I'm moving to the moon!

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 3:16 am
by fatman
China enough said :shock:

Re: Okay, that's it! I'm moving to the moon!

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 4:18 pm
by Juha
http://www.businessinsider.com/trapwire ... now-2012-8

I guess I'd better learn how to play Paranoid.

Re: Okay, that's it! I'm moving to the moon!

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:41 pm
by Pudfark
Mercy...."Trapwire".... :roll:

Who is going to respond to a "Trapwire" I.D. ?
This system will not work unless you are comparing "known" people, at this time.

I'll say this again....and again, if necessary?
There are around 300 million folks in this country and arguably about a third of
them live in highly populated areas. Apparently, some folks cannot grasp the
computing power that would be required to do this....then the human factor to
digest it and then dispatch it. The person of interest would be long, I repeat long
gone. It ain't workable or feasible, except under rare and well defined circumstances.

It ain't no threat to your average "duck".
This system, by itself will never be the tool, that directly apprehends/incarcerates
anybody. I have never understood people's fascination with cameras and their "self
perceived" thoughts, that camera's capture people........Sheeeesh :?

No disrespect intended Juha :)

Re: Okay, that's it! I'm moving to the moon!

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:48 pm
by Juha
None taken.

Just that here in Europe we have something called "biometric" passports - the pics are made easier for computers to recognise faces automaticly. This is something I read from usual newspapers. Secondly, a close friend of mine has sold now for years special chips for facial recognisiton. I guess there's industrial scale buyers around.
In Finland the goverment have been pushing for satellite/GPS based mandatory tracing system for cars. All in the name of safety and congestion fees/road tolls.

This Trip-trap-what-ever-wire sounds like another brick on the worldwide totalitarian wall.

I'm appreciating more and more the american (?) principle that goverment should fear its' citizens (freedom to carry weapons).

Re: Okay, that's it! I'm moving to the moon!

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:43 pm
by callmeslick
it's not just the weapons, Juha, it's the nature of the place. If you've never been here, it would be hard for most Europeans to grasp how much uninhabited/sparsely habited space the US entails. Makes facial tracking or any visual tracking damn near useless other than the densely populated areas. I mean, I can be sitting on my cousin's porch in Quimby, and your chip/sattelite/video gizmo ID's us as troublemakers(no real stretch). Where are they sending this information to? The security bunker in Cape Charles? To do what, send a drone strike to get us before we head down the road to Clam or Hopeton? Multiply this example by a hundred million or so, and you have one expensive pile of useless. As Ruggie points out, it is unconstitutional, but that I could see as stopping nothing before the fact. Still, you can see from the slow slog of hi-tech over in Afghanistan that sparsely settled regions are a bitch to try and control.

Re: Okay, that's it! I'm moving to the moon!

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:29 am
by nicolas10
I agree 100% with what Juha just said, despite he said it in the wrong thread. I suggest we move this to the "smile" thread :D

Nic

Re: Okay, that's it! I'm moving to the moon!

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:34 am
by nicolas10
BTW they have also made this biometric passport in France, and they added a RFID chip in it for good measure. In the country they'll locate you through the RFID chip. And with the facial recognition stuff they'll know everywhere you've been in a city (demonstration etc).

Sooner than later the UN will pass a resolution to control small arms and your Obami of the time will say: "look guys it's not us it's the UN that forces us".

Nic

Re: Okay, that's it! I'm moving to the moon!

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:19 pm
by Sniper-690
I have tried 5 times to use the quick check through customs using my chipped passport, never worked once.