A Complete Waste of Space

I defy anybody to defend this "new policy".
Out of my respect for our benevolent benefactor (Tolwyn), I will do my utmost to refrain from using my relatively large obscene vocabulary to describe this situation.

DHS to release thousands of illegal immigrants, blaming budget cuts

The Department of Homeland Security has started releasing hundreds of illegal immigrants held in local jails in anticipation of automatic budget cuts, in a move one Arizona sheriff called politically motivated -- and dangerous.

Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu said Tuesday that Immigration and Customs Enforcement released more than 500 detainees in his county alone over the weekend. A spokesman for Babeu told FoxNews.com that ICE officials have said they plan to release a total of nearly 10,000 illegal immigrants.

"President Obama would never release 500 criminal illegals to the streets of his hometown, yet he has no problem with releasing them in Arizona. The safety of the public is threatened and the rule of law discarded as a political tactic in this sequester battle," he said.

An ICE official confirmed the plans without specifying how many illegal immigrants might be released.

House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., called the move to release illegal immigrants "abhorrent."

"By releasing criminal immigrants onto the streets, the administration is needlessly endangering American lives," he said in a statement.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/02 ... z2M2N2AnJW

The "cuts" have not gone into effect yet. Still, they opened the jail house doors.
The Dem's are trying to start a war.

“At the borders, Napolitano said the department would have to scale back patrols between ports of entry in the southwest United States, after years of making progress in stopping people from entering the country illegally from Mexico,” the Washington Post reports.

You know what else tends to put a damper on such progress? Releasing a bunch of illegal immigrants you already have in custody:

The federal government released groups of illegal immigrants from custody across the country Monday at the same time the White House was making its case that impending budget cuts would harm efforts to protect the border and enforce federal immigration laws.

Advocates reported “waves” of illegal immigrants being released from at least three detention centers in Texas, Florida and Louisiana.

U.S. Immigration Customs and Enforcement confirmed the release of some illegal immigrants Monday night but would not say how many or from which detention centers.

“In order to make the best use of our limited detention resources in the current fiscal climate and to manage our detention population under current congressionally mandated levels, ICE has directed field offices to review the detained population to ensure it is in line with available funding,” said ICE spokeswoman Gillian Christensen. “As a result of this review, a number of detained aliens have been released around the country and placed on an appropriate, more cost-effective form of supervised release.”

Yeah Slick, this is the way to run the country. Dumpin this shit in my backyard.
What goes around comes around. It'll be interesting to see what steps the affected States take. You people have lost your "collective" minds.

First thing the soviets did when they took power was to open the jails to help the establishment of terror.

Nic

simple fix, the States or the Congress can appropriate the needed money to pay for housing. This is discretionary spending, and what you all are going to find out in the next month or so is how important 'discretionary' Federal spending is to the overall well-being and happiness of the population. The GOP set you up for this, so don't be shocked that they are about to get bitch-slapped with harsh realities. Lots of BS has been tossed around about the evils of big government, government spending and the like. Well, buckle up, Pud, watch what happens when the spending gets curtailed. Don't like it, don't blame Obama, push for adequate revenues to pay for it.

nicolas10 wrote:First thing the soviets did when they took power was to open the jails to help the establishment of terror.

Nic

different situation, Nic....plus, the part Pud and Faux News leave out is that those released are ascertained not to be risks for violence or other flagrant criminality. Essentially, harmless folks being warehoused until deportation hearings. The way Pud tries to present it, they are releasing hundreds of gangsters, rapists and thieves onto the streets. Not the case, at all.

callmeslick wrote:

nicolas10 wrote:First thing the soviets did when they took power was to open the jails to help the establishment of terror.

Nic

different situation, Nic....plus, the part Pud and Faux News leave out is that those released are ascertained not to be risks for violence or other flagrant criminality. Essentially, harmless folks being warehoused until deportation hearings. The way Pud tries to present it, they are releasing hundreds of gangsters, rapists and thieves onto the streets. Not the case, at all.

Then why were they locked up in the first place?
Total Bullshit.
I say Texas should round them up and send those essentially harmless felons
to Vermont.
Why was this done prematurely...with no notice or warning? Let alone, any discussion?

Why so far? Only the Southern States? How many turned loose in the Northern States? This was done at Obama's directive, right before the big "tour".

Your explanation dictates your tacit agreement with this "illegal" conduct by our President.

callmeslick wrote:simple fix, the States or the Congress can appropriate the needed money to pay for housing. This is discretionary spending, and what you all are going to find out in the next month or so is how important 'discretionary' Federal spending is to the overall well-being and happiness of the population. The GOP set you up for this, so don't be shocked that they are about to get bitch-slapped with harsh realities. Lots of BS has been tossed around about the evils of big government, government spending and the like. Well, buckle up, Pud, watch what happens when the spending gets curtailed. Don't like it, don't blame Obama, push for adequate revenues to pay for it.

Fuck you. You created this problem and ignored it. Still are, with the exception of trying to incite civil disobedience. You may have accomplished that. Obama puts a whole new definition to black male/black mail. Obama's actions have put the public in part of this country at greater risk. Try to deny it.

Pudfark wrote:Then why were they locked up in the first place?

umm, to await deportation.

Total Bullshit.

if you are referring to the mock outcry, sure, I'll agree.

I say Texas should round them up and send those essentially harmless felons
to Vermont.

sure, just pay for the whole process.....

Why was this done prematurely...with no notice or warning? Let alone, any discussion?

Why so far? Only the Southern States? How many turned loose in the Northern States? This was done at Obama's directive, right before the big "tour".

Your explanation dictates your tacit agreement with this "illegal" conduct by our President.

nonsense on several levels. First, they are being released from northern county jails, too.....we just don't whine about anyone releasing non-criminals being held for deportation. They still get their hearings and still get deported. The costs around this, from a reputable news source:
"According to the National Immigration Forum, it costs the government about $164 a day to keep an illegal immigrant facing deportation jailed. In a report on immigration detention costs last year the advocacy group said costs for supervised release can range from about 30 cents to $14 a day." Oh, and did you note that all of these people were released into supervised release? Yes, I agree that we shouldn't be wasting money holding people for months before deportation hearings. Yes, I agree that we ought to make reducing 'discretionary' spending be obvious to the biggest whiners against it. Don't like it? Pony up the tax money to pay for it.

callmeslick wrote:

Pudfark wrote:Then why were they locked up in the first place?

umm, to await deportation. Everyone of them is a felon, so why the delay?

Total Bullshit.

if you are referring to the mock outcry, sure, I'll agree. That's a fact, yer BS

I say Texas should round them up and send those essentially harmless felons
to Vermont.

sure, just pay for the whole process.....We already paid for it once. Why twice?

Why was this done prematurely...with no notice or warning? Let alone, any discussion?

Why so far? Only the Southern States? How many turned loose in the Northern States? This was done at Obama's directive, right before the big "tour".

Your explanation dictates your tacit agreement with this "illegal" conduct by our President.

nonsense on several levels. First, they are being released from northern county jails, too Name the Northern County Jails and numbers released.....we just don't whine about anyone releasing non-criminals being held for deportation. They still get their hearings and still get deported. The costs around this, from a reputable news source:
"According to the National Immigration Forum, it costs the government about $164 a day to keep an illegal immigrant facing deportation jailed What's it gonna cost to rearrest them. In a report on immigration detention costs last year the advocacy group said costs for supervised release can range from about 30 cents to $14 a day." Oh, and did you note that all of these people were released into supervised release How is this supervised release going to be paid for? Yes, I agree that we shouldn't be wasting money holding people for months before deportation hearings. Yes, I agree that we ought to make reducing 'discretionary' spending be obvious to the biggest whiners against it. Don't like it? Pony up the tax money to pay for it.

You never addressed this: "Why was this done prematurely...with no notice or warning? Let alone, any discussion?

Well...Why?

"Despite potential budget cuts being 4 days away and with Congress and the Administration negotiating to avoid them, the Department of Homeland Security has already started releasing hundreds of illegal aliens held in local jails in anticipation of automatic “sequestration” cuts – out of a planned total of more than 10,000 aliens to be released.

Sources tell Stand With Arizona that DHS has “34,000 beds” for illegal aliens, meaning that Secretary Janet Napolitano is releasing nearly 1/3 of all DHS-detained illegal aliens in the United States – despite the fact that no actual cuts have even begun, and despite a record of massive wasteful spending by DHS over the past 3 years.

Napolitano had been warning of potential impact to DHS after impending cuts, but now she has jumped the gun by enacting a “budgetary amnesty” by fiat – releasing thousands of criminal aliens amongst communities and families across the nation."

http://standwitharizona.com/blog/2013/0 ... dget-cuts/

These illegal immigrants will likely disappear from the law enforcement map. This is Barack Obama’s way of blackmailing the American people into supporting his calls for tax increases. Senator Jeff Sessions (R-AL) responded in a statement.

There is no logical or rational reason why the 5.3 percent cut to ICE’s operating budget would have to result in forcing law officers to immediately release already-apprehended illegal aliens and fugitives in federal detention. The last thing you would do to meet a budget cut of this size would be to voluntarily undertake actions that undermine the rule of law and endanger the public safety. These savings could be much more safely and rationally achieved, considering that they will be distributed among such areas as facilities maintenance, equipment maintenance, communications, travel, etc. The Administration also had months to plan for this eventuality and could have developed numerous alternatives to this reckless action -

See more at: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government ... Zh8z8.dpuf

You still haven't addressed this: "Why was this done prematurely...with no notice or warning? Let alone, any discussion?