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Lets get a little technical: Compression ratios

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 6:41 pm
by HappyHappy
Ok you gurus of airplanes and all things that use heat engines for propulsion.

Why does a higher compression ratio deliver greater specific power (efficiency).

Piston engines are the object of the question, but the same goes for gas turbines.

This could be fun :D

One hint. 100% burn can be achieved in a gasoline engine at as little as 6:1
So a complete burn is not the reason.

HH

Re: Lets get a little technical: Compression ratios

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:18 pm
by Reservoir_Dog
I'll assume you're referring to thermal efficiency.
High compression ratios = more time for the expansion cycle, less fuel can be used at the same combustion temperature, more mechanical power is generated, less heat loss through the exhaust system.
It's also why diesel engines are so efficient.

Re: Lets get a little technical: Compression ratios

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:09 am
by HappyHappy
Very close.
Not quite.
The remaiming item you missed is what time are you referring to?

HH

Re: Lets get a little technical: Compression ratios

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:27 am
by fatman
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Re: Lets get a little technical: Compression ratios

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:47 am
by Pudfark
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Re: Lets get a little technical: Compression ratios

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:20 am
by Juha
Carnot cycle gives the answer:

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Efficiency can be seen as a ratio between High and Low temperatures in the cycle -> higher compression allows higher temperature difference in the work cycle.
(Because compressing gas makes it hotter)

Happy, HH?

Re: Lets get a little technical: Compression ratios

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:33 am
by HappyHappy
Juha wrote:Carnot cycle gives the answer:

Image

Efficiency can be seen as a ratio between High and Low temperatures in the cycle -> higher compression allows higher temperature difference in the work cycle.
(Because compressing gas makes it hotter)

Happy, HH?

nailed it :D

Re: Lets get a little technical: Compression ratios

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:28 am
by Juha
Counter question: Why the compression ratio is usually lowered, when an engine is rebuilt with a turbo charger?

Re: Lets get a little technical: Compression ratios

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:58 am
by HappyHappy
Juha wrote:Counter question: Why the compression ratio is usually lowered, when an engine is rebuilt with a turbo charger?
Pressure ratio (effective compression) must reflect the octane or performance
number (over 100 Octane) of the fuels in use. There is a loss in efficiency at lower power settings.
Modern automotive thinking is to use a very small highly boosted engine
to counter this by having a small engine at low power "traffic" situations
and running nearly constant boost in high power usage scenarios.

Aircraft engines use turbocharging mostly as altitude compensation
mantaining sea level boost at the carb inlet. Compression remains unchanged
but usually lower than in automotive. WWII era engines are typically 6 to 7:1

HH

Re: Lets get a little technical: Compression ratios

Posted: Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:35 am
by Juha
Yep.

:lol: